Infinite Geometric Sequence: How to Find the Number of Terms

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The discussion revolves around determining the number of terms in an infinite geometric sequence defined by the terms 12, 4, 4/3, ..., 4/729. Participants are exploring the properties of geometric sequences and the relationships between terms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formula for the nth term of a geometric sequence and question the values of the first term and the common ratio. There is exploration of how the exponent in the denominator of the last term relates to the number of terms in the sequence.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the relationship between the terms and the common ratio. There is an ongoing exploration of the arithmetic involved in determining the number of terms, with some participants acknowledging mistakes in their calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on understanding the implications of the sequence's structure and the arithmetic properties of powers of 3. Participants are also reflecting on the definitions and roles of the terms in the geometric sequence formula.

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Homework Statement


How many terms are in each sequence?

12, 4, 4/3, ..., 4/729


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The Attempt at a Solution



using tn=t1(r)(n-1) ? I am lost
 
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That sequence clearly shows each n+1 term is the n term multiplied by \frac{1}{3}

Even the denominator of the last term is a multiple of 3 and only 3 (and 1, which is redundant); while the very first term, 12, is a whole positive integer.

Denominator of the n=3 term is 3^1. Denominator of the last term is 3^p. What is p? How does this relate the the value of n for this last term?
 
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Presuming you mean tn=t1r(n-1), then you are doing fine. What do each of the terms mean? Which ones do you know and which one are you supposed to evaluate? What are you missing and how do you figure it out?
 
Big hint: <br /> 3^6 = 729<br />editted
 
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Vince604 said:

Homework Statement


How many terms are in each sequence?

12, 4, 4/3, ..., 4/729


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



using tn=t1(r)(n-1) ? I am lost

This should be t_1 r^(n-1).

t_1 is the first number, right? And that is 12. What is r? To go from 12 to 4, you divide by 3, to go from 4 to 4/3, you divide by 3... Add dividing by 3 is the same as multiplying by 1/3. So t_n= (12)(1/3)^(n-1)= 4/729. Divide on both sides by 12: t_n= (1/3)^(n-1)= 1/2187. That is the same as 3^(n-1)= 2187. You could answer that by taking logarithms but it is perhaps simper to do as symbolipoint suggested: look at powers of 3. 3^2= 9, 3^3= 27, 3^4= 81, 3^5= 243, 3^5= 729, 3^6= 2187. What is n-1? And so what is n?
 
HallsofIvy,
At least I had the right idea, but obviously I made an arithmetic mistake. 3^5 vs. 3^6
 
Thanks:biggrin:
 

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