Geometric Series with Complex Numbers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the real numbers n and m in a geometric series defined by the complex numbers m-3i, 8+i, and n+17i. Participants explore methods to derive these values through algebraic manipulation and the properties of geometric sequences.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially attempts to use the conjugate to find the ratios of the complex numbers but encounters complex algebraic expressions.
  • Another participant suggests finding two expressions for the common ratio instead of using the conjugate approach.
  • A later reply presents the equations derived from the common ratio, stating that the system leads to the equations mn=12 and 17m-3n=16, with one solution being m=2 and n=6.
  • The same participant notes the existence of another possible solution but expresses reluctance to verify it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of finding expressions for the common ratio, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the completeness of solutions and verification of additional possibilities.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes algebraic expressions that may depend on specific assumptions about the values of m and n, and the potential for multiple solutions is acknowledged but not fully explored.

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Hello all,

Three consecutive elements of a geometric series are:

m-3i, 8+i, n+17i

where n and m are real numbers. I need to find n and m.

I have tried using the conjugate in order to find (8+i)/(m-3i) and (n+17i)/(8+i), and was hopeful that at the end I will be able to compare the real and imaginary parts of the ratio, but I got difficult algebraic expressions, so I figure out it's not the way. Can you assist please ?

Thanks !
 
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Yankel said:
Hello all,

Three consecutive elements of a geometric series are:

m-3i, 8+i, n+17i

where n and m are real numbers. I need to find n and m.

I have tried using the conjugate in order to find (8+i)/(m-3i) and (n+17i)/(8+i), and was hopeful that at the end I will be able to compare the real and imaginary parts of the ratio, but I got difficult algebraic expressions, so I figure out it's not the way. Can you assist please ?

Thanks !

Rather than the conjugate think about the sequence side of it instead - can you find a pair of expressions for the common ratio (and therefore equal to each other)?
 
That's what I was trying to do, to find two expressions for the ratio. I need two equations somehow.
 
Yankel said:
That's what I was trying to do, to find two expressions for the ratio. I need two equations somehow.

$r= \dfrac{8+i}{m-3i} = \dfrac{n+17i}{8+i}$

$63+16i = (mn+51)+(17m-3n)i$

$mn=12$

$17m-3n=16$

one solution for the system is $m=2$, $n=6$

there is another possible, but I'm too lazy to check.
 

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