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The discussion revolves around geometry proofs, specifically focusing on congruence and relationships between angles and segments. Participants are preparing for an upcoming exam and seek assistance in understanding various proof concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants share specific proof problems, questioning the relationships between segments and angles. They explore the implications of midpoints and congruence, while also seeking hints and clarifications on their reasoning.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance to others, encouraging them to express their thoughts and reasoning. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to understand the proofs, with various interpretations being explored without a clear consensus on all points.

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Participants are working under the pressure of an upcoming exam, which may influence their urgency and approach to understanding the material. There are mentions of specific geometry concepts, such as supplementary angles and vertical angles, which are central to the proofs being discussed.

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Geometry Proofs.. Help!

Please please someone help me! :eek: I have a Geometry Exam on Monday and I don't understand proofs one bit :cry: ! If someone could help me with a few proofs that would be so awesome!
 
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ccseagle said:
Please please someone help me! :eek: I have a Geometry Exam on Monday and I don't understand proofs one bit :cry: ! If someone could help me with a few proofs that would be so awesome!

Have you got any specific questions?
 
yeah, could you help me with this proof..

Given: B is between A and C; D is between C and E; and C is the midpoint of line BD and of line AE

Prove: line AB is congruent to line DE

Picture:

<--A---B---C---D---E-->
 
yeah, could you help me with this proof..

Given: B is between A and C; D is between C and E; and C is the midpoint of line BD and of line AE

Prove: line AB is congruent to line DE

Picture:

<--A---B---C---D---E-->
 
Ok, I'll give a hint. You know that |\vec{AC}|=|\vec{CE}| so start with this, then express both sides of the equation in terms of two new lengths. Have a go, and post your thoughts.
 
AB+BC= line AC

and

CD+CE = line CE

I don't know, am I even on the right track??
 
Yes, so now the equation becomes:|\vec{AC}|=|\vec{CE}| \Rightarrow<br /> |\vec{AB}|+|\vec{BC}|=|\vec{CD}|+|\vec{DE}|<br /> Carry on with this.
 
umm.. would the reason be substitution??
 
Line AC is congruent to line CE??
 
  • #10
Ok, my notation
|\vec{AC}|=|\vec{CE}|
means that the length of the line AC is equal to the length of the line CE (this is equivalent to the two lines being congruent).

We know that AC is congruent to CE, since C is the midpoint of AE. CAn you say anything similar regarding the lines BC and CD
 
  • #11
C is the midpoint of lines BC and CD?
 
  • #12
WEll, C is the midpoint of BD, therefore BC and CD are congruent. Now look at the equation given in post #7. What does this tell you?
 
  • #13
I don't think I understand.. Can you give me a hint??
 
  • #14
ccseagle said:
I don't think I understand.. Can you give me a hint??

Not without giving you the answer! Ok, here goes: The equation can be rearranged to give

|\vec{AB}|-|\vec{DE}| =|\vec{CD}|-|\vec{BC}|
Now, since the BC and CD are congruent, what can say about the RHS of the equation? What does this then imply?
 
  • #15
I don't know.. Umm what's a RHS??
 
  • #16
Right hand side. Ok, if two lines are congruent, then it means they have the same length. Let's call this length x. Then the RHS is x-x=...?
 
  • #17
the lengths are congruent?
 
  • #18
Well, |\vec{AB}|-|\vec{DE}| =|\vec{CD}|-|\vec{BC}|=0 \Rightarrow |\vec{AB}|=|\vec{DE}|

And so, the lines AB and DE are congruent.
 
  • #19
Ok, i think i get it.. Thanks.. Do you think you could help me with a couple more??
 
  • #20
Maybe one, it's getting quite late. Post your attempt at a proof to the problem you post first though.
 
  • #21
ok, thanks..

Given: angle 8 and angle 1 are supplementary

Prove: angle 4 is congruent to angle 6

Picture:


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-angle 1 is congruent to angle 3 because they are vertical angles
-angle 8 is congruent to angle 6 because they are vertical angles
 

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  • #22
-supplementary means that the sum of two angles equals 180 degrees
-angle 8 and angle 1 are congruent because of corresponding angles
 
  • #23
But now is where I get stuck
 
  • #24
Umm, can you give me a hint please??
 
  • #25
ccseagle said:
-supplementary means that the sum of two angles equals 180 degrees
-angle 8 and angle 1 are congruent because of corresponding angles

Careful.. You said 8 and 1 were supplementary!

From what we are given, and your points in your previous post,

6=8=180-1

Now, since 1 and 2 are angles on a line, what can you say about 2 in terms of 1? how is 2 related to 4?
 
  • #26
-angle 2 and angle 4 are vertical angles
-angle 2 and angle 1 is a linear pair
 
  • #27
but also in my given it says that angle 1 and angle 8 are supplementary...
 
  • #28
Yes, so 2=180-1 and 2=4. Put these into the eqn above
 
  • #29
the equation in post #25??

and i don't understand wut u mean.. how do i put into the equation above??
 
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  • #30
yes 6=8=180-1
 

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