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Count Iblis
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Georgia = America's Israel in the Caucasus? 
Georgian - South Ossetian - Russian Conflict
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the geopolitical conflict involving Georgia, South Ossetia, and Russia, focusing on the potential responses from the USA and NATO, the historical context of the conflict, and the implications of Georgia's aspirations to join NATO. Participants explore various perspectives on intervention, the nature of the conflict, and the historical legacies influencing current events.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Exploratory
- Historical
Main Points Raised
- Some participants question whether the USA will act as a mediator or support Georgia, expressing confusion over the US's potential role.
- Others argue that Europe and NATO should take action rather than relying on the US, suggesting a need for European responsibility.
- There are differing opinions on the justification for intervention, with some advocating for non-interference and others recalling historical precedents of conflict.
- Participants discuss the complexities of the conflict, noting that Georgia's attack on South Ossetia initiated the fighting, framing it as a civil war rather than an international conflict.
- Some express skepticism about Georgia's motivations for NATO membership, questioning the strategic benefits for the US and NATO.
- Concerns are raised about Russia's historical tactics and the implications of granting Russian citizenship to South Ossetians, suggesting a long-term strategy by Russia.
- Participants highlight the ongoing informational war between Georgian and Russian media regarding territorial control and military actions.
- There is a discussion about the geographical challenges of military engagement in Georgia, with some arguing that Russia's military might may not guarantee a swift victory due to the terrain.
- The historical roots of the conflict are mentioned, with references to the legacy of Soviet policies and the long-standing tensions between the two nations.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the appropriate response to the conflict or the motivations of the involved parties. Disagreements persist regarding the nature of the conflict, the role of external powers, and the historical context influencing current events.
Contextual Notes
Participants acknowledge the complexity of the situation, including the historical legacies from the Tsarist and Soviet eras, the lack of international recognition for South Ossetia's independence, and the ongoing humanitarian and political ramifications of the conflict.
- #452
seycyrus
Count Iblis said:Georgia = America's Israel in the Caucasus?
I take it that you mean that the Russians vastly over-exaggerated the claims of massacre, just like the palestinians have habitually done?