Get acceleration from a distance-time graph

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The discussion revolves around calculating acceleration from a distance-time graph. The original poster presents an equation involving initial position, initial velocity, and acceleration, but expresses confusion regarding the discrepancy between their calculated acceleration and a value derived from the slope of a velocity-time graph.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the method of calculating acceleration using the distance-time graph and question the initial conditions used in the calculations. Some participants suggest that the starting point of the time axis may affect the results, while others provide their own calculations and observations regarding the slopes of the graphs.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering insights and alternative interpretations of the graph data. There is recognition of potential errors in the original poster's assumptions about initial conditions, and some participants are exploring the implications of these assumptions on the calculated acceleration.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the x-axis not starting at zero, which may influence the calculations. Additionally, the original poster is required to calculate acceleration using only the distance-time graph, which raises questions about the validity of including other data in their analysis.

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Homework Statement



I got a graph with time on the x-axis, and distance on the y-axis. (see attached picture)
I have to calculate the acceleration using only the distance - time graph.

Homework Equations



I used S(t)=S(0) + V(0) * t + .5 * a * t2

The Attempt at a Solution



That gives 1.30=0+0*3.09 + .5 * a * 3.092
1.30/(.5/9.5481)=a
a=0.272 m/s2

But I know the acceleration is 0.42171 m/s2, because that's the slope of the V,t graph. What am I doing wrong here?

Thanks.

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The slope of the velocity time graph looks much less than 0.42. It looks to me (by eye) much more like 0.3.

Chet
 
The slope of the velocity I made roughly..

0.5/(3-1.8) = 0.42

so that seems ok.

I used S(t)=S(0) + V(0) * t + .5 * a * t2

That gives 1.30=0+0*3.09 + .5 * a * 3.092

The time axis doesn't appear to start at t=0 but at t=0.85.

At t=0.85 the position still appears to be approx 0 but the velocity appears to be 0.1m/s.

At t=2.8 the displacement appears to be 1m so..

1 = 0.1(2.8-0.85) + 0.5 a (2.8-0.85)^2

Gives a = 0.423
 
Chet [strike]is[/strike] was missing the fact that the x-axis doesn't start at zero.

I am impressed by the fancy teaching materials they have in NL. Now let's try to come up with a proper interpretation...

Can you indicate how you found s(0) and v(0) ?

Third time tonight quick replies cross. Starts to annoy me.
Isn't it bedtime for you Rute ? 0:30 AM ?!

Anyway, polynoom fit shows a3 = 0.21 which is 0.5 * 0.42, so data looks good.
Not only that, polynoom a2 is lineair a1, so that looks almost too good !

Don't know why the chi squareds are so low, but I suppose you don't have to worry about those in this stage of your physics education.

Back to the question how you found s(0) and v (0).

Since your mission is somewhat clearly formulated: "I have to calculate the acceleration using only the distance - time graph" I would be inclined to consider include the fit results as part of the Positie(Tijd) graph. But I am a lazy person. You Judge if that is allowed or not. If it is, life is easy: a1 = s(0), a2 = v(0), a3 = acceleration.
If it is not, there is some more work to do...

Did you really record this beautiful plot at 03:48 in the morning ? Wow...!
 
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BvU said:
Chet [strike]is[/strike] was missing the fact that the x-axis doesn't start at zero.

You're right. Mia culpa.

Chet
 

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