Get time from acceleration given as a function of velocity

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between acceleration as a function of velocity and the time variable, specifically how to derive time as a function of velocity from the given acceleration function.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definition of acceleration and its implications in the context of calculus. There are attempts to manipulate the equations relating velocity and time, but some participants express confusion regarding the integration process and the dependency between variables.

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The discussion is active with participants questioning the definitions and relationships between acceleration, velocity, and time. There is an exploration of different formulations, but no consensus has been reached on how to proceed with the integration or the implications of treating the variables as dependent or independent.

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Some participants note the challenge of integrating with respect to different variables and the potential confusion arising from the nature of acceleration as a function of either time or velocity.

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Homework Statement


If the acceleration is given as a function of velocity a(v), we can found t(v) as t(v) = t0 + ∫vv0 1/a(v) dv.

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I just can't understand there to go to understand the equation..
 
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What is the (calculus based) definition of acceleration?
 
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[tex]\frac{dv}{dt} = a(t) \rightarrow v(t_1) = v(t_0) + \int_{t_0}^{t_1}a(t)dt[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dt}{dv} = \frac{1}{a(t)} \rightarrow t(v_1) = t(v_0) + \int_{v_0}^{v_1}\frac{1}{a(t)}dv[/tex]

but it is still not [itex]a(v)[/itex]
 
harmyder said:
[tex]t(v_1) = t(v_0) + \int_{v_0}^{v_1}\frac{1}{a(t)}dv[/tex]
How will you integrate f(t)dv? t and v are not independent variables.

Note that acceleration a is dv/dt regardless of if a is a function of time a(t) or a function of velocity a(v)
 
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