Getting a B.S. in Physics was a big mistake aparently.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by individuals with a B.S. in Physics in securing employment. Participants share their experiences and perspectives on job prospects, the perceived value of a physics degree, and the potential need for further education or alternative career paths.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration at being unable to secure a job despite having a B.S. in physics, citing a preference for engineering or computer science degrees by employers.
  • Another participant shares a contrasting viewpoint, stating they have been told that a B.S. in physics would not lead to job opportunities, leading them to plan for graduate school instead.
  • Some participants note that job prospects vary widely, with some finding success while others struggle, suggesting that luck plays a role in job acquisition.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of resumes, with one participant questioning whether their qualifications are being adequately communicated to potential employers.
  • Discussion includes the idea that networking and personal connections may be more critical than formal education in securing jobs.
  • Suggestions for alternative career paths, such as field service or sales engineering, are mentioned as potential options for physics graduates.
  • Participants discuss geographical factors affecting job availability, with some expressing dissatisfaction with opportunities in their regions while others claim there are many opportunities in certain cities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on the job market for physics graduates, with multiple competing views on the value of a physics degree, the importance of networking, and the effectiveness of resumes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for individuals with a B.S. in physics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying personal experiences, differing regional job markets, and the subjective nature of resume effectiveness. There is also an acknowledgment that the perceived value of a physics degree may not align with employer expectations.

  • #91
lisab said:
I'd apply to large companies anyway, despite what you've heard about needing to know someone to get in.

This is good advice...actually its excellent advice.

One time and one time only...I have gotten an initial interview because someone recommended me...every other job interview and job offer was 100% because of my resume, experience, and interview skills...

lisab said:
Another possibility is signing up for a technical temp agency. This a) gets money in your pocket, b) gives you experience, and c) might get you hired on full-time, because many companies hire that way - they use the temp route to "test drive" applicants.

Once again...good advice.
 
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  • #92
ljackson said:
I have a B.S. in physics from a reputable school with a good GPA, numerous publications in highly reputable journals and I am still not able to get a job anywhere. Hell, I can't even get an interview because very very few jobs want someone with a degree in physics. They want an engineering discipline or computer science discipline. Both of which I'm very well versed in from my research experience and highly capable.

Yet, I've been told at least 20 times this year that a Physics degree is not what they are looking for.

I was planning on getting my M.S. right away, but I really need a job to pay for piling up bills and am thus only able to go part-time.

My advice, or rather statement, is do not try to get a job with just a B.S. in physics.

My problem was believing my advisors and online sources that engineering/comp sci disciplines would be intersted in a physics degree.

/Edit: I am so depressed lol

You are selling yourself in totally the wrong way then. A bachelors degree is less about exactly what you have studied and more about showing how you work.

And real science / engineering degree, shows you have very good analytical, mathematical, and problem solving skills. The fact you will have undoubtedly written many reports shows good communication is needed.

Basically you need to sell your skills gained, not the degree itsself.EDIT: Bloody old threads. I never look at the date :(
 
  • #93
xxChrisxx said:
EDIT: Bloody old threads. I never look at the date :(

Nonetheless, it is still good advice for others.
 
  • #94
I am a firm proponent of internships. You need to assume that those companies you've applied to don't want to hire you because 1) you don't know anything and 2) you don't have any experience doing the things you don't know anything about. The internship will give you access to the company's methods and if you are able to adapt they will offer you something more permanent.

And don't forget the military. Stop thinking materialistically and start thinking abstractly. If you join the Air Force as an officer, they will pay for you to go to AFIT for graduate degrees, you will learn leadership, management, and a myriad of other technical skills that will almost surely land you a federal gig after you are honorably discharged.
 
  • #95
Firefox123 said:
Sorry I haven't logged onto PF in a while...



90%?

Nope...this is untrue...whoever told you that is dead WRONG.

All I have ever worked is defense and I have been involved with hiring new engineers...believe me...you are NOT screwed if you don't know someone.

What has been your job search approach so far?

Mostly just applying online at the aerospace/defense company websites.

Anyways, I've gotten plenty of interviews with companies that aren't in aerospace/defense. My blog, http://cypherscouter13.blogspot.com/, summarizes what's been helpful for me getting job interviews at companies that are not aerospace/defense companies. But my problem is that I can't get interviews at the aerospace/defense companies, which is where I'd much rather work
 
  • #96
Bottom line: if you want to be a physicist you must get your phd. The ms in physics is widely regarded as the consolation prize for those who could not meet the rigours of the phd program. If you want to do engineering, get a degree in engineering.

Someone steered you wrong. A BS in physics might get hired to actually do physics but it's as unusual as a pre-law degree that doesn't go to law school.

Sorry but that's how it is.
 
  • #97
Antiphon said:
Bottom line: if you want to be a physicist you must get your phd. The ms in physics is widely regarded as the consolation prize for those who could not meet the rigours of the phd program. If you want to do engineering, get a degree in engineering.

Someone steered you wrong. A BS in physics might get hired to actually do physics but it's as unusual as a pre-law degree that doesn't go to law school.

Sorry but that's how it is.

I'll be happy just to finish my BS and then get an MS. lol.
 
  • #98
In hind site, I probably should have switched to Chemical Engineering a while back, or at least double with physics and economics to set myself up for an MBA.
 

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