Getting a masters at same university as BS, then going for PhD.

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The discussion revolves around the strategy of pursuing a master's degree at the same university where one completed their undergraduate studies, particularly in the context of improving GPA for future PhD applications. It touches on concerns about GPA adequacy for graduate school admission and the potential benefits of obtaining a master's degree before applying for a PhD program.

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  • Some participants question whether pursuing a master's degree is a sound strategy if the undergraduate GPA is perceived as insufficient for PhD programs.
  • One participant suggests that gaining a master's degree can be a viable alternative for students with weak GPAs, allowing them to improve their academic standing before applying for a PhD.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the acceptance criteria for terminal master's programs, implying that a low GPA may hinder admission.
  • A participant notes that in the U.S., it may not be necessary to obtain a master's degree before pursuing a PhD, suggesting that direct entry into a PhD program could be more beneficial.
  • There is a suggestion that re-taking courses during a master's program could enhance GPA and improve chances for PhD admission, especially if research is included in the master's dissertation.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity and effectiveness of obtaining a master's degree before pursuing a PhD, with no clear consensus on whether this is a beneficial strategy.

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Participants highlight the variability in acceptance criteria for master's programs and the potential for conditional acceptance based on GPA, indicating that the discussion is influenced by individual circumstances and institutional policies.

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is this a bad practice? if my GPA does not look high enough for grad school, I may stay and get my masters at my undergrad university, and then look to get a PhD elsewhere.
 
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If your GPA isn't "high enough", what makes you think you'll get accepted into a (rare) terminal Masters' program? Usually you have to be accepted into a PhD program and earn your Masters' on the way.
 
Are you in the United States? If so, why bother with a masters before the Ph.D?
 
DrManhattanVB said:
is this a bad practice? if my GPA does not look high enough for grad school, I may stay and get my masters at my undergrad university, and then look to get a PhD elsewhere.

This is actually a very good strategy.

For many students who think that their undergraduate GPA is weak and may be a challenge to get into a good Ph.D program, getting a Masters Degree and trying to get a stronger GPA is a viable alternative. Of course, one may need to do that at schools that will accept the weak GPA in the first place, but there are plenty of terminal Masters program in the US that may consider a conditional acceptance if one's GPA is that weak.

What this will allow you to do is to re-take some of the courses that you may have not done as well, and then go on with your graduate level classes. If you can get a higher GPA by the time you graduate, then your chances of doing a Ph.D will be significantly higher than if you rely solely on your weak undergraduate GPA. It will also help if you did some research as part of your Masters dissertation.

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