Good physics books for mathematicians

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on recommendations for physics books suitable for mathematicians, particularly focusing on electricity and magnetism. Participants share their experiences with various texts and suggest resources that do not assume extensive prior knowledge in physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty with the Berkeley Physics Course, Vol. 2, seeking a more concise book on electricity and magnetism that does not require extensive background knowledge.
  • Another participant recommends Purcell's book for its natural development of magnetism and intuitive understanding of induction, while also mentioning Griffiths' "Introduction to Electrodynamics" as a standard text, though noting some concerns about its second half.
  • A different participant suggests Griffiths as the best undergraduate-level book and Jackson for graduate studies, sharing their own transition from mathematics to physics and the need for resources that bridge both fields.
  • John Baez's Reading List is mentioned as a potential resource for further exploration of physics literature.
  • Sandra Chapman’s "Core Electrodynamics" is highlighted as a mathematically inclined introduction to electromagnetism and relativity, with few prerequisites.
  • Franklin's "Classical Electromagnetism" is recommended for its clarity and foundational approach to the theory.
  • Spivak's "Physics for Mathematicians" is noted as a series that may align well with the needs of mathematicians venturing into physics.
  • For classical mechanics, Arnold's "Mathematical Methods of Classical Mechanics" is suggested, along with a mention of Sudbury's book on quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best resources, with no consensus on a single recommended text. Various suggestions cater to different levels of prior knowledge and areas of focus within physics.

Contextual Notes

Some recommendations depend on individual backgrounds and preferences, and the discussion reflects a range of experiences with the suggested texts. There is an acknowledgment of the varying levels of prerequisites among the recommended books.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for graduate students in mathematics seeking to expand their understanding of physics, particularly in electricity and magnetism, as well as educators looking for suitable texts for students with a mathematical background.

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Hi everybody,

I am a graduate student in mathematics, and have hardly any physics background.
I was looking to broaden my knowledge in physics, and started by taking the Berkeley Physics Course, Vol. 2 ( Electricity and Magnetism).
On the one hand I find the book too detailed and long, and on the other hand more advanced books rely on prior knowledge I don't have.

Can anybody recommend an electricity and magnetism book that is "concentrated" but still doesn't rely on background in the topic?
If you know of books on other physics topics that are good for mathematicians like me, I would be happy to hear.

Thanks ahead!
 
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Purcell is a great book, I used it last semester in my introductory honors course. It really develops magnetism naturally from the relativistic transformations of the field which I thought was fascinating. It also really helped me understand induction intuitively. Now this semester I'm taking the year long course required for the major and I'm using David Griffiths Introduction to Electrodynamics which is the standard. I like it so far but my professor says that the second half is not as good. These texts are pretty standard. Purcell is usually used in the second half of honors introductory sequence (Kleppner is used for mechanics which is also a great book you might want to checkout) and Griffiths for the yearlong sequence. The book used for the grad course is usually Jackson Classical Electrodynamics from what I've heard. My professor also has Vanderline Classical Electromagnetic Theory listed on his website but I haven't seen that before.

Grad students have told me that for Quantum mechanics, Sakurai is the best. They said you don't need any background in quantum mechanics to read it but I haven't gotten it yet. Another great resource is Feynmann's lectures.
 
Electricity and Magnetism: Probably the best book out there at the undergraduate level is “Introduction to Electrodynamics” 3rd ed. by David J. Griffiths. It “thinks” like a physicist, and I keep my 1st ed. as a reference. At the graduate school level comes one year of “Classical Electrodynamics” 3rd ed. by John David Jackson, Wiley, 1998. I had 2nd ed., and the first edition dates back to 1962.

I actually have a review of texts/literature/key math tools/key math ideas from junior physics to graduate/postgraduate physics. A lot of the books are math books and/or mathematics books for phyicists written by mathematicians across algebra, geometry, and algebraic topology.

I was well on my way to a PhD in math when I switched to physics, so I had to find paths from the mathematician's perspective to the phyicist's perspective.

The forum link to the "review" is

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=540829

First is a short document you can download, than a much longer one tracing math/physics from the early 17th century to today.

Cheers,

Alex A
 
Sandra Chapman wrote a brief book with the title "Core Electrodynamics" that might of of interest to someone who wants a mathematical introduction to electromagnetism and relativity.

A version of the book has been made available for download using this web link.

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/physics/research/cfsa/people/sandrac/coreelectrodynamics.pdf

Here is a description of the book:

Core Electrodynamics is an advanced textbook that engages the student in the elegance of electrodynamics and special relativity, whilst giving them the tools to begin graduate study.The book is written clearly, incisively and has few prerequisites. After some revision matter, the book's core material links elementary, electromagnetic concepts with relativity and field theory, introducing the key concepts of tensors and tensor calculus. Core Electrodynamics provides the basis for graduate study in field theory, high energy astrophysics, general relativity and quantum electrodynamics.
 
Spivak (author of the standard Calculus texts) wrote a series of books called "Physics for Mathematicians", which gets some pretty good reviews. Sounds like that's what you're looking for.
 
For classical mechanics, you have to check out Mathematical Methods of Classical Mechanics by V I Arnold. I liked Sudbury's book on quantum mechanics.

In addition to Baez's book list, he has these seminar notes and course notes:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/QG.html
 

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