Good thermodynamics text/videos?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for thermodynamics textbooks and video lectures, with participants expressing their experiences and preferences regarding existing resources. The conversation touches on the perceived shortcomings of a specific text, "Fundamentals of Engineering Thermodynamics," and seeks alternatives that bridge the gap between theoretical understanding and practical application.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with "Fundamentals of Engineering Thermodynamics," noting a disconnect between theory and practice and a lack of example problems.
  • Another participant defends the Wiley text as a good reference but suggests working with instructors to better understand the examples.
  • Some participants agree on the importance of knowing specific areas of interest within thermodynamics to guide textbook selection.
  • A request for a reference textbook that can be used for future thermodynamic analyses is made, highlighting uncertainty about necessary assumptions in practical applications.
  • One participant challenges the clarity of the original request, suggesting that more specific questions would yield better recommendations.
  • There is a discussion about the differences between thermodynamics and fluid mechanics, with a participant providing a list of recommended texts for various applications within thermodynamics.
  • Another participant mentions the usefulness of Chegg for accessing solutions to textbook problems as a supplementary resource.

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Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of the Wiley text, with some finding it useful while others note its limitations. There is no consensus on a single recommended textbook, and multiple competing views on the best resources remain.

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Participants' recommendations vary based on their specific interests in thermodynamics, such as chemical engineering or mechanical applications, indicating that the choice of resources may depend on the context of use.

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All,

Know of any thermodynamics text that's better than "fundamentals of engineering thermodynamics" From Wiley publishing?
Shortcomings- very few example problems, and I feel like it's missing something, but I'm not quite sure what. Like, there's a disconnect between the science and the practice of thermodynamics

I am willing to pound my head against a graduate level text, if that is what is necessary.

Any good video lectures?

Thanks!
 
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I've personally found "Fundamentals of Engineering Thermodynamics" to be a good text for reference, what you need in my opinion is to work with the teacher/TA to understand the examples presented in the text.

What topics specifically are you having trouble with?
 
Like, there's a disconnect between the science and the practice of thermodynamics

I agree this is often the case.


What topics specifically are you having trouble with?

However I also agree with this since it is vitally important to know your area of interest in thermodynamics.
 
I guess I'm really looking for a reference textbook- like something I can keep on a shelf and refer to in the future if I'm developing something that requires a thermodynamic analysis
I mean, I know the basics of the energy rate balance; but if I need to assume that a compressor doesn't change the entropy of a fluid, I don't know what kind of assumptions I'll have to make.
 
I'm sorry, but that didn't tell me much other than you appear to want a textbook on compressors.

If you want a good answer you need to ask a good question.

Engineering or Physics viewpoint

If Engineering

Chemical plant engineering?, turbine?, Heatpump?, combustion engine? General mechanical? steam engine?

but then I'm doing your work for you.
 
If I asked this question about fluid dynamics, everyone tends to answer munson/young/okiishi. I'm looking for something like that. Or is thermodynamics more broad a field than fluid dynamics?
 
Thermodynamics and fluid mechanics are very different things although there is some common ground.

I am still at a loss to know exactly what you are seeking.

Anyway here is a list of books I have found useful

Basic Engineering Thermodynamics : Rayner Joel

Exactly what is says introductory to intermediate level for steam plant, refrigeration plant, IC engines, tubines etc

Engineering Thermodynamics, Work and Heat Transfer : Rogers and Mayhew

Intermediate to advanced as above. The UK engineers bible.

Essentials of Engineering Fluid Mechanics : Olsen

Slanted towards mechanical engineering fluids

Introduction to Heat Transfer : Incropera and DeWitt

Big book with lots of examples.

Concise Appplied Thermodynamics : Phillips and Owen-Jones

The opposite, very compact but contains lots of useful techniques and worked examples.

Introduction to Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics : Smith and Van Ness

Good book with a Chem Eng slant

Transport Phenomena : Bird, Stewart and Lightfoot.

A brilliant book going from elementary to very advanced with a special blend of fluid mechanics and thermodynamics.
 
awesome, thanks
 
The Wiley text is a really good one, and I liked using it in class. Have you considered using http://site.chegg.com/ so that you can get solutions to book problems and use those as additional examples? I agree that there aren't enough in the book alone, but I think there is a good variety of end of chapter problems that become examples when used with Chegg.
 

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