Grad school after long hiatus. Advice?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of returning to academia for a PhD in physics after a significant hiatus from formal education. Participants explore pathways to re-enter the academic world, including the importance of research experience, recommendation letters, and preparation for the physics GRE.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to transition back into academia after a long break, suggesting that reviewing upper-level textbooks and preparing for the physics GRE could be beneficial.
  • Another participant advises contacting former professors for recommendation letters, emphasizing that letters from those with whom research was conducted would be the strongest.
  • Concerns are raised about the relevance of recommendations based on decade-old work, with a suggestion that recent research experience would enhance the applicant's profile.
  • Participants discuss the possibility of enrolling in summer classes or seeking additional research opportunities at local universities to strengthen their applications.
  • There is a suggestion that applying to master's programs could serve as a backup plan, although one participant expresses a preference for pursuing a PhD directly.
  • Networking is highlighted as a key strategy for finding research opportunities, with recommendations to leverage personal connections or reach out directly to professors at nearby institutions.
  • Interests in specific research areas such as plasma physics, magnetic fields, cosmic rays, and nuclear reactions are mentioned, indicating a desire to explore various topics within physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of gaining recent research experience and the value of strong recommendation letters. However, there is no consensus on the necessity of pursuing a master's degree before applying to PhD programs, as opinions vary on the best path forward.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the weight of older recommendations and the best strategies for re-entering academia, highlighting the need for recent experience and connections in the field.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a return to graduate studies in physics after a significant break, particularly those seeking advice on navigating the application process and enhancing their academic profiles.

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I graduated with my BS in physics in 2005 with a 3.75 GPA. Now I'm teaching high school physics and find myself wanting to get an advanced degree. I'd like to get a PhD eventually, but I'm not really sure how to get back into that world. I figured going through my upper-level textbooks and getting a strong score on the physics GRE would be a good place to start. I don't have any research experience since 2005, though, and the only classes I've taken recently were on teaching methods, so I'm not really sure who I would really want to write recommendations.
Would I stand much of a chance as is or would I need to get some more relevant, more recent experience (take a class or do some research over the summer)?
Would it be a better idea for me to earn a master's somewhere before applying to a PhD program?
Thanks for the advice!
 
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andymars said:
I graduated with my BS in physics in 2005 with a 3.75 GPA. Now I'm teaching high school physics and find myself wanting to get an advanced degree. I'd like to get a PhD eventually, but I'm not really sure how to get back into that world. I figured going through my upper-level textbooks and getting a strong score on the physics GRE would be a good place to start. I don't have any research experience since 2005, though, and the only classes I've taken recently were on teaching methods, so I'm not really sure who I would really want to write recommendations.
Would I stand much of a chance as is or would I need to get some more relevant, more recent experience (take a class or do some research over the summer)?
Would it be a better idea for me to earn a master's somewhere before applying to a PhD program?
Thanks for the advice!

You should contact profs at your undergraduate institution, especially the ones you have done research with! You should remind them who you are in your email. Maybe attach your CV or something too. Ask them if they can write rec letters. LORs from people you have done research with will be the strongest. I think it's that you have plenty of teaching experience because most grad programs would require you to TA ( unless if you win a fellowship).

You should spend some time researching on what kind of research you want to do! Convince admissions why you want the PhD. So, I really think it is important you get in touch with your undergrad profs. Maybe you can reach out to profs at a local university too? You can maybe enroll for summer classes or get some additional research experience?

Study hard for the pgre and really aim for high score! Although low scores does not mean rejections, high scores open more doors.

I would not recommend applying to only master's programs, but having them as a back up is a good idea. Good luck!
 
Thank you! I think you're right about contacting my old professors. Unfortunately, many of them (including the one I did research for) have moved on. I'm sure I'll be able to find a way to contact him, though. The thing I'm concerned about there is that it would be a recommendation based on work I did a decade ago. Would that really count for much with admissions? I'm really thinking some additional (more recent) research experience would be in order. I guess now is as good a time as any to start looking. Any ideas where I should ask? Professors at the nearest university maybe?
 
andymars said:
Thank you! I think you're right about contacting my old professors. Unfortunately, many of them (including the one I did research for) have moved on. I'm sure I'll be able to find a way to contact him, though. The thing I'm concerned about there is that it would be a recommendation based on work I did a decade ago. Would that really count for much with admissions? I'm really thinking some additional (more recent) research experience would be in order. I guess now is as good a time as any to start looking. Any ideas where I should ask? Professors at the nearest university maybe?

If your undergraduate professors have good things to say about your research, then it certainly counts! It would be nice to get more research experience, and I encourage you to look for some opportunities. Do you know what you are interested in? If you live by a local university, consider sending an email to a professor there. Especially to someone you might be interested in working with. BTW, if you live near a local university do you know anyone who works there? If yes, have that person set you up with a physics prof that they know. A prof is more likely to meet you this way instead of you waiting for him/her to reply to your email. This worked out for me many times. *Networking is key*
 
I don't know anyone who works there, unfortunately, but one of my students just told me she has an aunt who earned her PhD in physics at ASU 20 minutes away. I think I'll talk to her and send out a couple e-mails to professors with interesting-sounding research. I'm not really sure how it will work out since I do work full time during the school year, but I'm sure I can work something out with someone.
I haven't really picked anyone focused, specific interest, but I do think most topics having to do with plasma, big magnetic fields, cosmic rays, and nuclear reactions are pretty awesome.
Thanks again for the advice!
 

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