Gradient of a dot product identity proof?

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Homework Help Overview

The original poster is tasked with proving a vector identity related to the gradient of a dot product as part of an E&M homework assignment. The specific identity in question involves the gradient operator and vector fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply a known vector identity to simplify the expression but encounters an inconsistency. Some participants suggest verifying the identity by examining individual components, while others caution about the non-commutative nature of the gradient operator.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the proof. Some guidance has been provided regarding the careful handling of the gradient operator, and there is acknowledgment of the potential utility of advanced mathematical tools like the Kronecker delta and Levi-Civita symbol, although the original poster prefers to avoid them.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has indicated a desire to avoid certain mathematical tools that have not yet been covered in their coursework, which may affect the approaches discussed.

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Gradient of a dot product identity proof?

Homework Statement


I have been given a E&M homework assignment to prove all the vector identities in the front cover of Griffith's E&M textbook. I have trouble proving:

(1) ∇(A\bulletB) = A×(∇×B)+B×(∇×A)+(A\bullet∇)B+(B\bullet∇)A

Homework Equations


(2) A×(B×C) = B(A\bulletC)-C(A\bulletB)


The Attempt at a Solution


I applied the identity in equation (2) to the first two terms on the right hand side of equation (1), and that allowed me to cancel out 4 terms. Yet, I end up with:

∇(A\bulletB) = ∇(A\bulletB)+∇(B\bulletA)

...which I know cannot be correct. How can I prove this identity in a relatively straightforward way? I have seen other pages asking this yet they all involved the use of Levi-Cevita symbols and the Kronecker Delta, which I am trying not to use because we haven't learned them. I would gladly appreciate anyone's effort to help me out.
 
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The only sensible way I can see is to do it by hand for let's say the <x> component in both sides and show they are the same.
 


I was hoping I can get around the long calculations lol
 


You have to be careful with the ∇ operator in vector identities, as it is not commutative. I think this caused the problem here.
The long calculation will work, and it is sufficient to consider one component.
 


Libohove90 said:
I was hoping I can get around the long calculations lol
I know you wanted avoid them, but it's definitely worth learning about the Kronecker delta and Levi-Civita symbol. Using them makes verifying the identity much easier.
 

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