Graduate Career: Engineering or Physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the career choices between pursuing a Master's degree in Physics or Engineering, particularly in the context of working with medical imaging technologies such as Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) and X-rays. Participants explore the implications of each path, including the necessary coursework, job opportunities, and the nature of work in these fields.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to work with core machinery related to medical imaging and is uncertain whether to continue in Engineering or switch to Physics, citing concerns about job availability and the length of study required for Physics.
  • Another participant questions the end goal of the original poster, prompting further clarification about a desire to design machinery for X-rays or CT scans.
  • A suggestion is made to consider medical physics as a potential field of interest, with the caveat that additional physics classes may be required before entering a master's program.
  • The original poster notes the difficulty of transitioning to medical physics due to the perceived challenges of Physics coursework and expresses a belief that physicists have a more comprehensive understanding of the principles behind medical systems compared to engineers.
  • Biomedical engineering is introduced as an alternative path, with some participants indicating that it may align well with the original poster's interests and background in communication systems engineering.
  • There is a discussion about the differences between biomedical engineering and medical physics, with one participant noting that biomedical engineers often design and build medical machines and have a solid understanding of machine operation principles.
  • Another participant highlights that most clinical medical physics work focuses on radiation oncology, suggesting a narrower scope than what the original poster might be considering.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the merits of pursuing a degree in Physics versus Biomedical Engineering, with some supporting biomedical engineering as a suitable option while others emphasize the depth of knowledge gained in Physics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which path is more advantageous for the original poster's career goals.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for additional coursework when transitioning between fields, which may impact the duration of study. There are also varying perceptions of the difficulty of Physics compared to Engineering, and the specific job roles available in each discipline are not fully agreed upon.

Domenico94
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HI everyone. I'm a student of communication systems engineering in Italy, doing his year of bachelor. What i wanted to ask, to all of you, was a doubt which I had during the last few months : choosing a carreer in Physics, or in Engineering, after getting my bachelor's degree in Engineering.
The point is that I want to work with stuff like Nuclear magnetic Resonance, or X-Rays, and similar suff, and make some little improvements on them. And here's the problem.
I could choose a degree in Physics after my bachelor's degree in Engineering, but I should take extra courses before entering Master's degree (like Quantum Physics, integrating calculus and Physics I and II exams, Nuclear Physics, etc), which would take me 1 or 2 year I think. Then I would complete the 2 year Master's degree in 3 or 4 year ( Physics is much harder than engineering, I guess,) so, I don't think I could take a Master's degree in 2 years. Then physics could give the opportunity to work with the "core" marchinery, be it a TC scan, or the machinery to produce X-rays, because you know all the physical principles behind that. The problem with this is that physicsts don't get jobs so easily as engineers do, and I would take much more time to get a Master's degree.
If I choose Electronics engineering Masters, of course I could graduate in 2 or 3 years, for a 2 year master's, but I'm afraid that I could do only "little stuff", like signal processing, and things like that, unlke the physicists that work with the core machinery, and all the physics related stuff. The job of an Engineer would be only designing circuits to process signal, but nothing more, I think. The good thing would be that Engineers have much more opportunities to get a job.
By considering this, what would you suggest me to do? Continuing with engineering or switching to phyiscs after my bachelor? Are there any other possibilities for electronics engineers to work with those machinery, rather than only designing circuits and boards? thank you
 
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What is your end goal? What kind of career are you thinking of?
 
Khashishi said:
What is your end goal? What kind of career are you thinking of?
I d like to design the machinery used for x rays or CT scans...
 
Have you looked into medical physics? I'm not sure how it works in Italy, but it sounds like that might be the field you're interested in. Depending on the specifics of your engineering background, you may be able to get into a medical physics master's program.
 
Yes, but the problem with medical physics is that I should take extra physics classes before entering master's degree ( I should take quantum mechanics or nuclear physics, for example), I should take the 2 year master's degree, but I think it would take much more than 2 years to complete it...Physics is much more difficult than engineering, I think. But, on the other hand,I think the work of a physicst is more complete to the one of an engineer, because the physicsts knows all the principles behind a system (be it an X-Ray scan, or an nmr, etc).
Another thing that I saw on the internet was biomedical engineering: I've read that many people graduated with that, and now (although they're only engineers and not physicsts) they design the coils used for the nmr, and similar stuff, which is exactly the job I want to do. And it's very close, in a certain sense, to my kind of studies (I study communication systems engineering), and that, in a certain sense, shouldn't give me much problems.
What do you think of biomedical engineering? You think it's an appropriate degree for that? Valid as much as medical physics could be?
 
biomedical engineering sounds appropriate
 
Khashishi said:
biomedical engineering sounds appropriate
I was starting to think it...you know which are the differences between the two? Between biomedical engineering and medical physics? Does biomedical engineering covers the principles behind the machinery?(the rotation of the spin for a nmr, ultrasounds for an echography, and so on)?
 
Any other suggestions?
 
Domenico94 said:
I was starting to think it...you know which are the differences between the two? Between biomedical engineering and medical physics? Does biomedical engineering covers the principles behind the machinery?(the rotation of the spin for a nmr, ultrasounds for an echography, and so on)?

There is a lot of overlap.

BMEs who specialize in MRI for example, design and build the machines, commission them, program the pulse sequences, etc. The medical physicists who I know who specialize in MRI all came through biomedical engineering programs. So BME definitely covers the principles of machine operation.

The majority of clinical medical physics (~ 80%) deals with radiation oncology physics. Rarely will the work involve, say the design of a linear new linear accelerator, although I know a number of medical physicists involved in this.
 

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