Graduate physics after CS and math

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of pursuing a graduate degree in theoretical physics for a student with a background in computer science and mathematics. Participants explore the necessary academic preparation, potential pathways into graduate programs, and the feasibility of self-learning physics to meet admission requirements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their limited physics coursework and doubts about passing the GRE for physics, questioning the necessity of additional undergraduate courses or a second bachelor's degree.
  • Another participant suggests that it is rare to be admitted to a physics graduate program without a strong physics background and recommends completing an undergraduate degree in physics.
  • A different reply advises checking with the current institution for additional courses needed for a physics degree and suggests taking electives to build credentials.
  • One participant inquires about the possibility of mathematicians contributing to fields like Quantum Physics and String Theory, acknowledging that they may not have deep subject knowledge but could still make contributions.
  • Another participant mentions a perception that European physicists may take more mathematics and less specific physics compared to American physicists, suggesting checking curricula from other countries for comparison.
  • A later reply proposes applying to programs in applied mathematics or mathematical physics to engage in research related to physics topics, noting the challenges of entering a physics program without core coursework.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a strong physics background is important for admission to graduate programs in physics. However, there are differing views on the feasibility of self-learning physics and the potential for mathematicians to engage in physics research.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific requirements for graduate programs and the extent to which self-learning can compensate for a lack of formal education in physics.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering a transition from computer science or mathematics to physics, individuals interested in the interplay between mathematics and theoretical physics, and those exploring graduate program requirements in STEM fields.

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Hey guys,
I was wondering if someone here could help me answer some questions, and if not at least give me some advice.
I'm double majoring in CS and Math. I want to pursue graduate degree in the future after I finish my bachelor. The thing is, I have so much love for math and theoretical physics, and I really want to have that graduate degree in theoretical physics, but I don't know if I can since I only took the courses Physics I and Physics II and I don't think I'll be able to pass the GRE for physics with this insufficient knowledge. I'm still in college and I don't know the procedures and requirements for graduate degrees. I'm wondering, are there any graduate programs that would offer undergraduate courses before I take any graduate classes? or do I have to pursue another bachelor in order to get into grad school for that matter?
Also, I self-learned a lot of stuff in math and programming, would you say that it would be possible for me to self-learn physics to pass the GRE?
Finally, if I decided to take grad school in mathematics, would it be possible to find a job where I could work on physics theories such as String Theory or GR etc?

thanks a lot.
 
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You should start by looking at Can I get a Ph.D. in physics if my bachelor's degree isn't in physics, at the very top of this page.

The short answer is that it's rare to be admitted to a grad school without the appropriate background, rarer still to be given the time to catch up on more than a course or two, and even rarer still for the school to pay for this extra time. If you want a grad program in physics, you should complete an undergrad program in physics.
 
NTheorist said:
I don't know if I can since I only took the courses Physics I and Physics II and I don't think I'll be able to pass the GRE for physics with this insufficient knowledge. I'm still in college...

Check with your institution and see what additional courses you need for a physics degree. Take some of those as electives and/or see if they are offered in a summer [short] semester. You'll build up your physics credentials and most importantly find out if you REALLY like the more advanced/intense physics.
 
Thanks guys, I'll see if I can take more physics classes.
Although I'm wondering about something, I've often heard of mathematicians who work on Quantum Physics and some also work on String theory, is it possible if I became a mathematician to get involved in these fields? I know that these people probably don't have deep knowledge of the subject, but they probably do contribute to it.
 
I've read, but have no personal knowledge if it is true, that European physicists generally take more math and perhaps less specific physics than do their American counterparts. If no one confirms or debunks that here, perhaps you can check out a curriculum or two in another country.

Try checking out Roger Penrose THE ROAD TO REALITY if interested. The math and physics there is expansive and impressive...I could the math details only for about the first 100 pages or so and stuck with concepts and explanations later. In the last ten or fifteen pages Penrose discusses the deep connections between the physical world and mathematics which might inspire you one way or another.
 
You can apply to schools under applied math or maybe mathematical physics and join a research group that is working on something that interests you (e.g. some topic in physics).

It will be harder getting into a physics program since you haven't taken the core that most grad programs expect.
 

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