Gravitation & Electromagnetic Forces: Interdependence?

[AnishG]

Gravitation and Electromagnetic forces are independent, correct? That implies.. Gravitation would exist even if Electromagnetic forces didn't. But, electromagnetic forces are responsible for existence of atoms.. and atoms are what make up the mass, no? And Gravitation exists because of Mass.
So, I don't think Gravitation would exist if there was no Electromagnetic force, would it?

 

[JesseC]

gravity still exists between chargeless particles though.

 

[rahuliitkgp]

you forgot neutrons!

 

[Barwick]

There are some who say electromagnetic forces are the cause of gravity.

http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-dist.asp

In that case, no they couldn't.

Me personally, I can't get over the thought of gravity, a force, acting over incredible distance without a medium or field to propagate the force. That's why I have a lot of doubts about two forces "pulling" at each other.

 

[baublitz]

I have been working with gravity and electromagnetic force for year.
I tried to build a perpetual wheel out of rare Earth magnets and a huge quartz crystal out of the virginia city, nevada gold mines.

I have been somewhat successful in getting the magnet wheel wrapped around the huge crystal to resonate/vibrate and spin up for days before dying back down to stop.

I have yet to find a good efficient small bearing to hold the device up to the ceiling to let it spin up and run.

I think I have a friction problem that is stopping my project from spinning up!

I have tried a fishing swivel and a bearing out of a computer hard drive, but still no good.

Any ideas?

Thanks:

Dick Baublitz xpi
blitz@pyramid.net
Radio KI7YF