Gravitation lab for online simulation-equation derivation help?

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The discussion centers on deriving an equation for the period of an object in a circular orbit using the PhET simulation for gravitation. The user is specifically focused on "Activity 4," which involves manipulating the mass and position of bodies in the simulation. Key equations mentioned include G = v²r / m, centripetal acceleration a = 4π²r / T², and the relationship between circumference and period. The user seeks verification of their derivation and guidance on linking velocity, position, and period effectively.

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  • Understanding of gravitational concepts, specifically the universal gravitational constant (G).
  • Familiarity with centripetal acceleration and its equations.
  • Knowledge of circular motion and the relationship between circumference and period.
  • Basic algebra skills for manipulating equations and solving for variables.
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  • Research the derivation of the orbital period formula T = 2π√(r³/GM).
  • Explore the PhET simulation for hands-on experience with gravitational interactions.
  • Study the relationship between velocity, position, and time in circular motion.
  • Learn about the implications of varying mass and distance in gravitational equations.
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Students and educators in physics, particularly those focusing on gravitational dynamics and circular motion, as well as anyone utilizing PhET simulations for interactive learning.

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gravitation lab for online simulation--equation derivation help?

Homework Statement


To start with, you can access the lab here: http://phet.colorado.edu/teacher_ideas/view-contribution.php?contribution_id=690" .
I'm having trouble with the "Activity 4" part. It reads:
"Change the number of bodies to 3. Notice that the position and velocity for Body 1 and Body 2 changed when you clicked by the 3. Change them back, then set Body 3’s mass to 0.001, its x position to 100, its y velocity to your value from Q7, and its y position and x velocity to 0. Using your equation from Q6, the fact that speed is the distance over time, and the equation for the circumference of a circle, derive an equation for the period of an object in a circular orbit. Show all of your work below."
You can ignore all the stuff about changing bodies' masses and etc., unless you want to check out the simulation http://phet.colorado.edu/sims/my-solar-system/my-solar-system.swf" . I'm more worried about the deriving the equation part of it.

Homework Equations


The equation from Q6 that it mentioned was derived by me like so (the point was to find what value the sim was using for G, universal gravitational constant): G=v2r / m
centripetal a= 4pi2r / T2=v2/r
Fnet = ma
Circumference=2 *pi* r
v=x/t

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure how to start here! My attempt at a solution was putting the alternate equation for centripetal acceleration with period included in the section above--that truly is the extent of my thinking about it before I hit a brick wall. I don't know how to link velocity and position with period, as well. I'd like a verification that my previous derivation was correct.
 
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Okay, further attempts at a solution:

Circumference=2*pi*r
acentrip. =4pi2r / T2 = (circ)2 / T2

or maybe ac = v2 / r = (x2/t2) / r = t2 / x2r

How do I work G=v2r / M into it and make a comprehensive equation out of the whole thing? Any ideas?

EDIT: maybe if I set t2 / x2r = 4pi2 / T2 and solve for T? would this be a useful direction to go in? Maybe then I can make substitutions.
 

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