Gravitational field strength calculation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the scenarios in which the equations for gravitational field strength, g = F/m and g = GM/r², are applied. Participants explore the definitions and contexts for each equation, considering their use in different gravitational situations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that g = F/m is used to find the force acting on a mass in a gravitational field, while g = GM/r² is used to calculate the gravitational field strength at a point in the field created by a mass M.
  • One participant explains that g = F/m defines the strength of the gravitational field at any location in terms of the gravitational force F acting on a test mass m placed at that location.
  • Another participant reiterates that g = GM/r² is an application of the definition of gravitational field strength, specifically for a point mass or outside a spherically symmetric mass distribution.
  • A participant mentions that at the Earth's surface, the force is given by GmM/R², where R is the radius of the Earth, and that this holds well for small distances from the surface.
  • It is noted that at appreciable distances from the Earth's surface, r must be used instead of R in the equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express similar views on the definitions of the equations but do not reach a consensus on the specific scenarios for their application. Multiple perspectives remain on the context and conditions under which each equation is preferred.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on the definitions of gravitational field strength and the specific conditions under which each equation is applicable, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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In what scenarios would you use the equation g= F/m instead of g=GM/r2 (or vice versa), for calculating gravitational field strength?

Update: is g=F/m used to find the force acting on a mass in a gravitational field (of strength g), whereas g=GM/r2 used to calculate the gravitational field strength at a point in the field created by the object of mass M
 
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g = F/m defines the strength of the gravitational field at any location, in terms of the gravitational force F that acts on a test-mass m placed at that location. (Note that we use a similar definition for electric field: E = Felectric/q.)

g = GM/r2 is an application of that definition to the special case of the gravitational field at a distance r from a point mass, or outside a spherically symmetric mass distribution, at a distance r from the center: $$g = \frac F m = \frac {\left( \frac {GMm} {r^2} \right)} m = \frac {GM} {r^2}$$
 
jtbell said:
g = F/m defines the strength of the gravitational field at any location, in terms of the gravitational force F that acts on a test-mass m placed at that location. (Note that we use a similar definition for electric field: E = Felectric/q.)

g = GM/r2 is an application of that definition to the special case of the gravitational field at a distance r from a point mass, or outside a spherically symmetric mass distribution, at a distance r from the center: $$g = \frac F m = \frac {\left( \frac {GMm} {r^2} \right)} m = \frac {GM} {r^2}$$

Ahh I see that makes sense, thank you
 
Maybe this is what you are asking since you are using lower case g... The gravitational force on a test mass m at a distance r from the center of the Earth is given by GmM/r2, where M is the mass of the earth. At the Earth's surface, the force is given by GmM/R2, where R is the radius of the earth. For small distances from the surface, this equation still holds well and we use g = GM/R2 for the acceleration due to gravity near the Earth's surface, in which case F=mg.

At appreciable distances from the Earth's surface, we have to use r instead of R, hence the other equation.
 

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