Gravitational force near and away from earth's surface

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the gravitational force experienced at the Earth's surface compared to that felt at higher altitudes, particularly in the context of orbits and weightlessness. Participants explore calculations related to Newtonian gravity and seek clarification on the discrepancies in their results.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why gravity feels significantly stronger at the Earth's surface than at higher altitudes, suggesting that orbiting is akin to a continuous free fall.
  • The same participant attempts to calculate the gravitational force using Newton's law of gravitation but arrives at an implausible result, prompting them to seek feedback on their calculations.
  • Other participants point out that the radius of the Earth should be expressed in meters rather than kilometers and that the radius should not be divided by 2, as the provided value is already the radius, not the diameter.
  • A later reply acknowledges the mistakes in the calculations and expresses gratitude for the corrections.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to use the correct units and values in gravitational calculations, but the initial question regarding the perception of gravity at different altitudes remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the initial misunderstanding of the Earth's radius and the implications of using incorrect units in gravitational calculations. The discussion does not resolve the broader question of gravity's effects at varying distances from the Earth's surface.

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So, I asked myself the question, "why does the Earth's force of gravity effect us so dramatically on the surface of the earth, but seems nonexistent while just a couple hundred miles up?"

I answered that question myself, after thinking more about it, because the idea of an orbit is that you constantly fall towards the earth. So just like the simulated weightless environment a plane can create, so is a space station a simulated weightless environment.

However, in trying to answer this question I tried to calculate the Newtonian gravitational force one one would feel at the surface, and here's what I got: (m1=earth, m2=unity)

F = G * m1 * m2 / r^2 = 6.67e-11 * 5.97e24 * 1 / (6378.1 / 2)^2 = 39191036.5 N/kg

So if I weighed 80kg, I would experience 39191037*80 = 3135282921 N

So, what did I do wrong? My feet obviously aren't holding up 314e6 N.

Also, knowing that we feel 9.81*m Newtons sitting on the surface, it would follow that G*m1/r^2 = 9.8:
G = 9.8*r^2/m1 = 9.8* (6378.1 / 2)^2 / 5.97e24 = 1.6705e-17

Thoughts?
 
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1. You're using Kilometers for R. Use meters instead.
2. Don't divide your value by 2. 6,378 is the radius of the Earth in Km, not the diameter.
 
The radius of the Earth needs to be expressed in meters not kilometers also do not divide the radius by 2?
 
Oh man, I'm bad. Thanks guys, lol...
 

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