Gravitational potential energy and continuous matter

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The discussion focuses on the application of gravitational potential energy formulas to continuous matter, specifically using a cylinder with constant linear density. The gravitational potential energy for two infinitesimal segments is expressed as $$\delta U = -G \rho^2 \frac{\textrm dx_1 \textrm dx_2}{x_2 - x_1}$$, leading to a diverging integral when summed over the entire length. The conclusion emphasizes that the assumption of a negligible radius for the cylinder is flawed, suggesting that a differential expression, $$\nabla^2 U = 4 \pi G \rho$$, is more appropriate for continuous media.

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The gravitational potential energy of two massic points ##P_1## and ##P_2## with respective masses ##m_1## and ##m_2## is given by
$$U = -G \frac{m_1 m_2}{|| P_2 - P_1 ||}$$
Now I was wondering how this formula could be applied to continuous matter. Let us imagine a very simple case where we have a segment-like body (a cylinder with negligible radius) of length ##L## and constant linear density ##\rho##. The gravitational potential energy of two infinitesimal segments centered in ##x_1## and ##x_2## (with ##0 \leq x_1 < x_2 \leq R##) would be:

$$\delta U = -G \rho^2 \frac{\textrm dx_1 \textrm dx_2}{x_2 - x_1}$$

But now if we try to add every contribution:

$$U = -G \rho^2 \int_{x_1 = 0}^{x_2} \int_{x_2=0}^L \frac{\textrm dx_1 \textrm dx_2}{x_2 - x_1}$$

this integral diverges...

Of course real matter is not really continuous so a more relevant description of reality would rather be a finite sum of many close but not superposed massic points. However it seems quite unsatisfying that the standard formula of gravitational potential energy does not work with the very common assumption of continuous matter. Am I missing something ?
 
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I think the problem is that you have assumed that the cylinder is of negligible radius. But then you've taken a differential element that is, in the limit, smaller than any radius. Accordingly, the cylinder radius is not negligible.
 

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