Gravity and ideas of how we can effect it on earth

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The discussion centers around the nature of gravity, its fundamental principles, and the possibility of affecting it on Earth. Participants explore theoretical questions regarding the effects of mass on gravity, the existence of minimum and maximum gravitational effects, and the implications of placing objects in space.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the fundamental understanding of gravity, questioning the reasons behind it and suggesting that existing laws (Newton, Einstein) do not provide complete answers.
  • One participant suggests that moving masses around is a way to affect gravity, while another questions the existence of a minimum gravitational effect, arguing that gravity arises from the collective mass of particles.
  • There is a discussion about whether objects in space, such as spacecraft, create gravity of their own, with some participants proposing that any mass should theoretically exert some gravitational influence.
  • Concerns are raised about the idea of "thinking outside the box," with some participants arguing that ignoring established knowledge leads to nonsensical conclusions.
  • One participant emphasizes that all theories must align with the known facts about gravity, even if the underlying cause remains uncertain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of gravity or the possibility of affecting it. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding and the complexity of the topic, highlighting the dependence on established definitions and the unresolved nature of certain questions regarding gravity.

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Still in 2012 there is no reason for gravity (that i can find online) and only the few laws of gravity (Newton, Einstein). I am no Scientist and not claiming i know allot about Physics however i do know the basics and want people to put the basics aside and think outside the square on this question. "how we can effect it on earth"

Also another question is if "large" objects with allot of mass cause gravity on/in time-space (mesh), is there a minimum and maximum for the effects of gravity and why if we put something into space (like a spacecraft ) that it does not create any gravity of its own? or does it? I would think that if you put something on nothing then it would create something (even if it is very small) given every action has a reaction.

again I am no scientist so be nice and please don't answer by saying we don't know that yet, facts or your ideas will be a good answer.
 
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There is no reason for any fundamental physical law.
I would be concerned if there would be 10 or more sets of laws of gravity. They cannot be all true, unless they are just different ways to write the same laws.

"how we can effect it on earth"
The laws itself? Not at all.
Gravity? Move masses around.

Also another question is if "large" objects with allot of mass cause gravity on/in time-space (mesh), is there a minimum and maximum for the effects of gravity and why if we put something into space (like a spacecraft ) that it does not create any gravity of its own?
There is no known minimum, and such a minimum would be really strange. After all, the Earth is just a big collection of small particles. If you don't get gravity from all those particles on their own, why should you get gravity if those particles are close to each other?
 
ChangingRules said:
Still in 2012 there is no reason for gravity (that i can find online) and only the few laws of gravity (Newton, Einstein). I am no Scientist and not claiming i know allot about Physics however i do know the basics and want people to put the basics aside and think outside the square on this question. "how we can effect it on earth"

Also another question is if "large" objects with allot of mass cause gravity on/in time-space (mesh), is there a minimum and maximum for the effects of gravity and why if we put something into space (like a spacecraft ) that it does not create any gravity of its own? or does it? I would think that if you put something on nothing then it would create something (even if it is very small) given every action has a reaction.

again I am no scientist so be nice and please don't answer by saying we don't know that yet, facts or your ideas will be a good answer.

Welcome to the PF.

We do not "put the basics aside and think outside the box" here at the PF. Please check your PMs and re-read the Rules link at the top of the page. Thread is locked.
 
ChangingRules said:
Still in 2012 there is no reason for gravity (that i can find online) and only the few laws of gravity (Newton, Einstein).
"No reason for gravity"? Surely you don't mean that? I like breathing and rely on gravity to keep the air from floating off into space!

I am no Scientist and not claiming i know allot about Physics however i do know the basics and want people to put the basics aside and think outside the square on this question. "how we can effect it on earth"
I'm not sure what you mean by "think outside the square". If you mean ignore what we do know, then all you will get is non-sense. I could, for example, "put the basics aside and think outside the square", declaring that painting an object green will make it resistant to gravity. But that won't make it true!

Also another question is if "large" objects with allot of mass cause gravity on/in time-space (mesh), is there a minimum and maximum for the effects of gravity and why if we put something into space (like a spacecraft ) that it does not create any gravity of its own? or does it? I would think that if you put something on nothing then it would create something (even if it is very small) given every action has a reaction.
Every theory we have says that any with mass (or, more correctly, mass-energy) has gravity. I have no idea what you could mean by "put something on nothing".

again I am no scientist so be nice and please don't answer by saying we don't know that yet, facts or your ideas will be a good answer.
Even if it is true that "we don't know that yet"? Even if we "don't know yet" what "causes gravity", any theory we come up with will have to fit the large amounts of facts that we do know about gravity.
 

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