Gravity and Mass: What's the Need for a Graviton?

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The discussion revolves around the necessity of a graviton in the context of gravity and mass, exploring the relationship between mass, spacetime curvature, and the quantization of gravitational forces. The scope includes theoretical considerations and the challenges of unifying gravity with other fundamental forces.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the need for a graviton, suggesting that gravity is sufficiently explained by the curvature of spacetime caused by mass.
  • Another participant notes that mass or energy causes spacetime to curve and mentions the idea of a particle mediating gravitational force, similar to other fundamental forces.
  • A different viewpoint states that the graviton represents an attempt to quantize gravity into discrete units, highlighting the lack of success in establishing a quantum framework for gravity.
  • There are references to theories like string theory and loop quantum gravity, which aim to unify gravity with other forces but have not produced experimentally verifiable results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of a graviton, with some supporting the idea of quantization and others questioning its relevance based on existing explanations of gravity. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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The discussion reflects limitations in current theoretical frameworks and the challenges in achieving experimental verification of proposed theories related to gravity and its quantization.

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Hello,

Please help an amateur understand. I don't see the need for a Graviton. I thought gravity was explained by: "Mass causes the curvature of space time". Hence objects "fall" toward each other in a sense; along the curved space time caused by their respective masses.

So why the need for this Graviton? There's the explanation above right? What am I missing?

Thanks!
 
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mass or energy causes space-time to curve. By the success of quantum theory they think we need a particle to mediate the Gravitational force, Just like we have particles to mediate the other forces.
 
The graviton is just a way to quantize gravity into discreet non-divisible units like we do with other forces. So far all attempts to place a quantum frame work on gravity have seen little success. It is something of a physics enigma.
 
There are theories which attempt to unify gravity with the other three forces - string theory and loop quantum gravity. Both of them have the same basic problem. They have yet to come out with meaningful results which can be experimentally verified.
 

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