Gravity assist and increasing orbital energy

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The discussion centers on the most efficient method to increase orbital energy in an elliptical orbit, specifically firing boosters at perigee rather than apogee. This approach leverages the Oberth effect, where the kinetic energy increase is greater at higher velocities, as indicated by the formula for kinetic energy: Δv => 1/2 m (v + Δv)². The term v Δv in the energy equation confirms that a higher initial velocity results in a more significant energy gain when the same change in velocity (Δv) is applied. The conversation also clarifies the distinction between the Oberth effect and gravity assist maneuvers.

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Hi, so whilst doing some reading I came across a section that said the most efficient way to increase your orbital energy when in an elliptical orbit is to fire your 'boosters' at perigee. I understand that the satellite is moving faster, but why should this mean that more energy is imparted to the satellite than when fired at apogee, assuming the change in the velocity is the same in both cases? It makes intuitive sense, but not logical sense (or at least not to me)

Many thanks :)
 
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Consider the kinetic energy increase from Δv => 1/2 m (v + Δv)2 = 1/2 m (v2 + 2 v Δv + Δv2). Note that the energy increase includes the term v Δv, so a higher v with the same Δv means a higher increase in energy.
 
rcgldr said:
Consider the kinetic energy increase from Δv => 1/2 m (v + Δv)2 = 1/2 m (v2 + 2 v Δv + Δv2). Note that the energy increase includes the term v Δv, so a higher v with the same Δv means a higher increase in energy.

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Physgeek64 said:
Hi, so whilst doing some reading I came across a section that said the most efficient way to increase your orbital energy when in an elliptical orbit is to fire your 'boosters' at perigee. I understand that the satellite is moving faster, but why should this mean that more energy is imparted to the satellite than when fired at apogee, assuming the change in the velocity is the same in both cases? It makes intuitive sense, but not logical sense (or at least not to me)

Many thanks :)
Just curious -- you mention Gravity Assist in your thread title, but not in your post. Should I update the title? Thanks. :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Just curious -- you mention Gravity Assist in your thread title, but not in your post. Should I update the title? Thanks. :smile:

Well I assumed this is a form of gravity assist since you need the gravity to speed up your orbit at perigee to then be able to fire your thrusters to increase your orbital energy, more so than at perigee. But if you don't feel the title is fitting, then please feel free :)
 
Physgeek64 said:
Well I assumed this is a form of gravity assist since you need the gravity to speed up your orbit at perigee to then be able to fire your thrusters to increase your orbital energy, more so than at perigee. But if you don't feel the title is fitting, then please feel free :)
What you have described is the Oberth effect. More commonly, "gravity assist" refers to a slingshot maneuver where a craft passes closely behind a planet or moon to gain speed or closely ahead to dump speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_assist
 
jbriggs444 said:
What you have described is the Oberth effect. More commonly, "gravity assist" refers to a slingshot maneuver where a craft passes closely behind a planet or moon to gain speed or closely ahead to dump speed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_assist

Thanks for the correction :)
 

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