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The discussion revolves around a problem involving gravitational attraction between two spherical objects with a combined mass of 138.07 kg. The gravitational force is given, and participants are attempting to determine the larger mass based on the provided information.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the gravitational force equation and a mass relationship to find the larger mass. There are discussions about the use of the quadratic formula and the validity of the calculations. Some participants question the logic and math used in the attempts, while others provide feedback on the calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their calculations and questioning the results. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the answers provided, and some participants express confusion regarding the results and the methods used. Guidance has been offered regarding the quadratic equation, but uncertainty remains about the final values.

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There are indications of potential issues with the online submission system that evaluates answers, leading to discussions about the correctness of the values obtained. Participants are also exploring the implications of using a programming language for calculations related to the problem.

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Homework Statement


Two spherical objects have a combined mass of 138.07 kg. The gravitational attraction between them is 1.48×10-6 N when their centers are 43 cm apart. What is the larger mass?


Homework Equations


F=Gm1m2/r^2
138.07=M1+M2

The Attempt at a Solution



F=1.48X10^-6
G=6.67X10^-11
r=.63 m
m1 and m2 is what we are solving for.

so i used the second equation and solved for M1. and plugged it into the first equation for M1.
F*r^2/G=(Mtot-M2)

then i solved for M2 and got a quadratic equation. m^2 -138.07m+4102.728. then used the quadratic equation. and came up with 86.568. What is wrong with my logic or math?
 
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Please show your work on how you used the quadratic equation.
 
no problem
 
-b+/- sqrt(b^2-4ac)/2a

138.07+/-sqrt(138.07^2-(4*1*4102.728))/2

(138.07+/-51.5012)/2then i get 94.78, and 87.058.
 
(138.07+51.5012)/2 is 94.78.
(138.07-51.5012)/2 is not 87.058.
 
94.78 didnt work maybe his C++ language is wrong...I think its wrong for another one I am about to post. For some reason gravity is not making any since to me, everytime i head in a direction I get an anwser that ends up wrong. ill post a link after I make it.
 
Here is a quadratic calculator that you might find useful:
http://www.math.com/students/calculators/source/quadratic.htm

I would concur with the 94.79 number.

As to your method it seems fine to me.

Though I think your expression left off your factor of M2
F*r^2/G=(Mtot-M2)
...would really be

F*r/G = (138.07 - m)*m
 
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What does this have to do with C++?
 
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Oh the homework I have to submit online and it tells me whether or not my answer is right or not. It is saying that 94 is wrong. So I am thinking that the C++ language he used to formulate the anwser is wrong because he created it himself
 
  • #11
Why did you enter 94? You know that isn't the answer.
 
  • #12
You get multiple tries at each question, that is how I found out that 94.78 is wrong.
 
  • #13
Did you try 94.8?
 
  • #14
yes, and it was wrong.
 

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