GRE Physics without Quantum Mechanics

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The discussion revolves around preparing for the GRE Physics exam without formal coursework in Quantum Mechanics or Advanced Electromagnetism. Participants explore resources and strategies for self-study, particularly focusing on the adequacy of various lecture notes and textbooks for mastering the necessary content within a limited timeframe.

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  • One participant seeks recommendations for crash courses in Quantum Mechanics and Griffith's level E&M, emphasizing a preference for structured resources like lecture notes and video lectures.
  • Another participant expresses concern that the original poster may be attempting the GRE too early, suggesting that without adequate preparation in E&M and mechanics, they might struggle with the exam.
  • Some participants note that while many GRE questions are not highly advanced, there are specific topics, such as special relativity in E&M, that could pose challenges without prior knowledge.
  • One participant mentions their experience with practice GREs, indicating they can handle many Quantum problems but struggle with rigorous mathematical concepts.
  • Another participant suggests that for Quantum Mechanics, memorizing key concepts and tricks may be more beneficial than deep understanding, given the time constraints during the exam.
  • A participant shares their plan to use specific lecture notes, questioning their adequacy for GRE preparation and expressing a desire for feedback from the forum.
  • One participant asserts that it is possible to perform well on the GRE using simpler textbooks like Serway's or Resnick's, implying that advanced resources may not be necessary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the adequacy of preparation materials and strategies for the GRE, with no clear consensus on the best approach. Some believe that basic resources may suffice, while others advocate for more advanced materials.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their backgrounds, such as lack of formal coursework in advanced topics, and the potential impact this may have on their GRE performance. There are also references to specific mathematical concepts and topics that may not be fully covered in the suggested resources.

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Individuals preparing for the GRE Physics exam, particularly those with limited formal education in Quantum Mechanics and Advanced Electromagnetism, may find this discussion relevant.

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I'm going to be taking the GRE Physics not having taken any formal classes in Quantum Mechanics or Advanced Electromagnetism. Obviously, I have taken the basic Freshman/Sophmore year E&M but I haven't taken the advance level class yet. Also, I have taken an Intro to Modern Physics class which had some quantum mechanics (Bohr atom, Time-independent Schroedinger, Harmonic Oscillator and Infinite Well potentials. I have also taken a Nuclear Physics class and do some research in particle physics so I picked up some quantum from there.
Can anybody recommend some "crash courses" (complete within 2 months with a couple of hours a day) in Quantum or, especially, in Griffith's level E&M?
 
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Please note that this will be an independent venture with no assistance from experts (excluding my occasional ventures onto these forums). I don't think reading textbooks on the subjects without guidance is the best idea for me so a class website with lectures notes, homework and solutions, and (ideally) some video lectures from some university would probably be the best medium.
 
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It seems like you are maybe trying to take the physics GRE a year too early. It's true that the questions on it are not terribly high level but if you've not had any E&M at Griffiths' level or I assume mechanics at the level of Marion & Thornton or so, the GRE may give you trouble. For the quantum part, you might be able to get away with going through the first half of a quantum text (such as the one by Griffiths).
 
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It seems like you are maybe trying to take the physics GRE a year too early. It's true that the questions on it are not terribly high level but if you've not had any E&M at Griffiths' level or I assume mechanics at the level of Marion & Thornton or so, the GRE may give you trouble. For the quantum part, you might be able to get away with going through the first half of a quantum text (such as the one by Griffiths).

I have gone through two of the practice GRE's with help from the wonderful resource http://www.grephysics.net" and find that I can do a large portion of the Quantum problems. Where I struggle is in specific questions about rigorous mathematical concepts and formulations of the subject.

As for Electromagnetism, most of the questions are on a more or less basic level but stumbling upon more advanced questions which I can't understand or solve is always unpleasant. For example, yesterday I stumbled upon a question concerning a special relativistic treatment of electric and magnetic waves: something of which I have no knowledge.
 
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americanforest said:
I have gone through two of the practice GRE's with help from the wonderful resource http://www.grephysics.net" and find that I can do a large portion of the Quantum problems. Where I struggle is in specific questions about rigorous mathematical concepts and formulations of the subject.

As for Electromagnetism, most of the questions are on a more or less basic level but stumbling upon more advanced questions which I can't understand or solve is always unpleasant. For example, yesterday I stumbled upon a question concerning a special relativistic treatment of electric and magnetic waves: something of which I have no knowledge.

As for the quantum mechanics, the rigorous stuff you can pretty much junk. you get 1.7 minutes per question, so your best bet is to memorize a few tricks about harmonic oscillators and Hermite polynomials; in the available practice tests and the one I took officially, there weren't any quantum problems that required you to muck about in derivations - in fact I'd say the quantum problems were the easiest ones! Griffiths might be a good book to look into, but you probably won't find anything that goes beyond the scope of a standard modern physics text.

As for the E&M question, could you be more specific?
 
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I've decided that I'm going to try to learn as much as I can about the two subjects through some lecture notes which look good. This is quicker than learning from a book, which tend to give too many gory details which aren't all that necessary for me in my current endeavour. The series of notes I am using are:

1. http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/examples/B17L.pdf"
These notes are pretty heavy on mathematics, but I was expecting that when dealing with this subject.​

2. http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-04Spring-2006/LectureNotes/index.htm"
I'm afraid that these notes might be too basic. What do you all think? Are these enough to tame the GRE?​

I look forward to getting bailed out by this forum while I stumble through these notes.
 
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Honestly, you can ace the GRE with just Serways (Or Resnick's)
 

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