The forum discussion centers around the ebass playing of notable musicians, particularly focusing on Mina's transition to East of Eden and her fingerstyle technique. The conversation highlights the complexity of ebass lines in Japanese music compared to American styles, referencing iconic tracks like Madonna's "Like A Prayer" and the influence of Motown. Participants discuss the unique tonal qualities of various bass guitars, including the Rickenbacker and EB3, and the contributions of legendary players like Jack Bruce and Chris Squire, emphasizing the artistry and musicality inherent in ebass performance.
PREREQUISITESMusicians, particularly bass players, music enthusiasts, and anyone interested in the evolution of ebass techniques and styles across different genres.
difalcojr said:Well, lots of chords in early and later Beatles music, then, you are both right. :) They also brought so many different orchestra instruments into their music, even animal noises, anything. So versatile, musical. Here's another group of that time, great bass player too, John Entwistle. The Who had a great lead singer, musicians.
Some say that the Pinks did it first, some say the opposite, but they both came out with albums like that.The chance meeting between the two bands happened on 21st of March in 1967 — coincidentally, the two bands were both working on their respective albums in Abbey Roads Studios in London; Pink Floyd was working on their debut, Piper at The Gates of Dawn, while The Beatles were recording what many consider one of the best albums ever made, Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.
Same with me. I like to hear the bass at about the same volume as the lead guitar, not low volume in the background, like it is in a lot of studio albums and bands, I think. Can't be too loud for me, bass. Bass is loud enough to hear on this one, could even be louder.Hornbein said:I didn't see the big deal about John Entwistle until I heard his live stuff. He's quite restrained in the studio recordings.
difalcojr said:Same with me. I like to hear the bass at about the same volume as the lead guitar, not low volume in the background, like it is in a lot of studio albums and bands, I think. Can't be too loud for me, bass. Found this one for the 'covers' thread but fits here. Bass is loud enough to hear.
difalcojr said:Same with me. I like to hear the bass at about the same volume as the lead guitar, not low volume in the background, like it is in a lot of studio albums and bands, I think. Can't be too loud for me, bass. Bass is loud enough to hear on this one, could even be louder.
Those things are a tube with a speaker at either end. They have that characteristic boomy sound. Once I was in a library next to a concert where they had a number of big ones. The library was rattling like crazy.difalcojr said:Yes, true, agree. I exaggerated. Just getting an equalized, flat amplitude output over the entire sound range would be nice. Trying to remember songs with good bass leads is difficult. Even the ones I thought had good bass sounds, did, but most all of it from the studio albums was too subdued in the background. Clapton & Bruce best I remember, from that live 'Spoonful' on Wheels of Fire album. I hear way, way too much bass a lot here when cars with huge woofers and sub-woofers in their trunks drive by, at full volume, every part of their car vibrating. Fuzz sound.
pinball1970 said:This has to be one of the best of that time
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Completely agree with you on Chris Squire. Tremendous. Never knew until now. Here's the opener song from their 2nd album with very prominent bass and organ. Strong organ and bass in albums 2 and 3, especially, I thought.Ken Fabian said:Glad Pinball put up some Yes. Not to everyone's taste but they've been a favorite of mine.
The late Chris Squire is my all time favorite bass player - as often as not playing it as a 'lead' instrument as a rhythm one; in his hands that distinction broke down. He took it places and gave it sounds like no-one else but most of all played with depth of musicality as well as virtuosity that still amazes me. When I heard that someone else stepped in when he was ill and could actually play it the way Chris did I was doubtful... I suppose that's a bass player worth paying attention to in their own right (Billy Sherwood - multi-instrumentalist and exceptional on all of them).
There are Yes songs that never grow old, that I find more nuance in every time I listen.
Unfortunately people who make videos of live performances seem to think the lead vocalist and lead guitarist are all that everyone wants to see... despite them being at Yes concerts where it should be obvious how fundamental to their music Squire's bass was. Quite a few songs where Jon Anderson provides vocal accompaniment to Squire's bass as much as the other way round.
Vale Chris Squire.
difalcojr said:Completely agree with you on Chris Squire. Tremendous. Never knew until now. Here's the opener song from their 2nd album with very prominent bass and organ. Strong organ and bass in albums 2 and 3, especially, I thought.
Thank you to @Hornbein and @pinball1970 for the Yes album recommendations. Got those albums 2-5 on CD and listened a lot now to all of them over the last couple of weeks. A word I never use, but it has been a delightful experience.