Green's function + method of images

In summary, Green's function is a function that is used to find the potential of a charge distribution outside of a volume that is bounded by a surface. It is only dependent on the shape of the surface.
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Hello,

I'm trying to understand the application of Green's function to find the potential better. I apologize in advance if I start mixing things up a little.

From what I understood and seen, we use this method (Green and method of images) in known symmetries (cylindrical/spherical/planar) and the whole catch is to find the function F in G= 1/|x-x'| + F where F has to fulfill Laplace's equation.
This F represents the potential of the charge distribution or point charges outside the volume V that is bounded by the surface S whilst fulfilling the boundary condition (Dirichlet/Neumann).
Also, an important note, Green's function is dependent only on the geometrical shape of the surface we have.

Assuming what I said is fully correct, I'd like to ask the following:

1. Most of the examples I've seen always solved by Green's function and the method of images for the case where the potential on the surface (the boundary condition) is zero (grounded surface).
Well what about the case where the potential on the surface is nonzero?
I know that the method of images is good for replacing some problem with point charges distributed where, at some point given, they all add up to have the potential zero there so I'm not sure how it can be applied here.
I tried answering it by saying, well, I know Green's function for an infinite grounded plane (for example), why not simply add up the constant to it. It fulfills the boundary conditions so it seems okay.
I plug it into the solution for a Dirichlet boundary condition and I'll have that extra element in the final answer (the integral of the charge distribution in the volume -rho- multiplied by the constant potential).

2. Green's function is dependent only on the shape of the surface I have. Well does that mean that for each of the symmetries (that I know their Green function) it is pretty much the same Green function and the only difference from one problem to another is the boundary conditions or how many image charges I have to add?

3. I forgot what I wanted to ask more, I'll update later when I remember.
Thanks in advance!
 
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The point is that the method of images only works for particularly simple, i.e., highly symmetric problems like the sphere or the infinite plane. Other methods are the expansion in generalized Fourier series etc. Have a look at the electrostatic part of Jackson's Classical Electrodynamics. The only important method missing is the method of conformal mapping for 2D problems.
 
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My question is focused on solving the Laplacian of the potential in a single dimension (I am aware of the 2D and 3D separation of variables method but it's much more difficult there to use Green's function there).

I just wanted to make sure if I got the whole Green thingy right.

I'd appreciate it if you could look at what I did in the following post:
[PLAIN]https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/finding-the-potential-by-greens-function.808531/[/PLAIN]
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/finding-the-potential-by-greens-function.808531/
 
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1. What is the Green's function method in physics?

The Green's function method is a mathematical technique used in physics to solve differential equations in terms of a fundamental solution or response. It is commonly used in electrostatics and other areas of physics to find solutions to boundary value problems.

2. How is the Green's function method related to the method of images?

The method of images is based on the concept of Green's functions. In this method, a problem with a specific boundary condition is replaced by an equivalent one with a different boundary condition, using an image charge. This image charge is chosen in such a way that it satisfies the original boundary condition and simplifies the problem to be solved using Green's functions.

3. What are the advantages of using the Green's function method?

The Green's function method offers several advantages in solving boundary value problems in physics. It allows for a general solution to be obtained for a variety of boundary conditions, and it simplifies the problem by reducing it to a one-dimensional integral. It also provides a systematic approach to solving problems and can be applied to a wide range of physical systems.

4. What are some applications of the Green's function method?

The Green's function method has various applications in physics, including electrostatics, fluid mechanics, and quantum mechanics. It is commonly used to solve problems involving potential fields, such as electric and gravitational potentials. It is also used in the study of wave propagation, scattering, and diffraction.

5. Are there any limitations to using the Green's function method?

While the Green's function method has many advantages, it also has some limitations. It may not always be easy to find the appropriate Green's function for a given problem, and the method may become complicated for more complex systems. Additionally, it may not always be applicable to problems involving time-dependent systems or non-linear equations.

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