Green's Function - modified operator

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The discussion revolves around finding the Green's function for a modified linear operator L' defined as L' = f(x)L, where f(x) is a non-zero function. Participants explore the relationship between the original Green's function G and the modified Green's function G' in the context of linear operators.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about deriving the Green's function for L' from the known Green's function for L, using the relationship L'G' = delta(x-x').
  • Another participant suggests applying G to L' and notes that since f is not zero, division by f is possible.
  • There is a proposal that L'G = f(x)LG = f(x) delta(x-x'), leading to the expression for LG' as delta(x-x')/f(x).
  • Some participants emphasize the goal of expressing G' in terms of G and f, while others express difficulty in eliminating the dependence on the operators L and L'.
  • One participant questions whether G' could simply be G/f, while another counters that L' would also need to act on f in that case.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a form for G' that involves multiplying G by 1/f(x'), assuming L acts on x, which could allow for commutation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact form of G' or the steps needed to derive it. Multiple competing views and approaches are presented, indicating ongoing uncertainty and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the manipulation of the operators and the implications of the function f(x) on the Green's function. There are unresolved mathematical steps and dependencies on the definitions of the operators involved.

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Hi, I'm stuck with a question from one of my examples sheets from uni.

The question is as follows:

If G(x,x') is a greens function for the linear operator L, then what is the corresponding greens function for the linear operator L'=f(x)L, where f(x) =/=0?

So I've started by writing L'G'(x,x')= delta(x-x') =f(x)LG'(x,x') from the definition of the greens function.

Also, LG(x,x')=delta(x-x').

Therefore, LG=f(x)LG'.

I'm now stuck! I don't know where to go from here. I've tried to integrate over a certain range x=[a,b] and use the delta function properties but I've got nowhere!

Many thanks in advance :)
 
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What do you get if you apply G to L'? Since f is not zero, you can divide by it.
 
RUber said:
What do you get if you apply G to L'? Since f is not zero, you can divide by it.
I get L'G=f(x)LG=f(x) delta(x-x')

I also have LG'=delta(x-x')/f(x)

Does any of that seem right?
 
I think the goal is to write G' in terms of G and f. I think you should have to tools to do that now.
 
RUber said:
I think the goal is to write G' in terms of G and f. I think you should have to tools to do that now.
I know that, but I can't seem to remove the dependence on either an L or L' operator. Do you have a hint on how to proceed?
 
So I've tried integrating these over an arbitrary range to remove the delta function, is there anything I can do with the integral of LG' or L'G ??

Thanks
 
Is there any reason it wouldn't just be G/f?
 
RUber said:
Is there any reason it wouldn't just be G/f?
I did initially think that, but when you do L'(G/f), won't L' also need to act on f ?
 
What if we were to multiply by a function of x' which, assuming L acts on x, will commute right through, like ##G'(x,x') = G(x,x') \frac 1 {f(x')} ##?
 
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RUber said:
What if we were to multiply by a function of x' which, assuming L acts on x, will commute right through, like ##G'(x,x') = G(x,x') \frac 1 {f(x')} ##?
Oh! I see. Thanks a lot for your help!
 

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