Group Representations and Young Tableaux

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The discussion centers around resources and understanding related to Young diagrams and tableaux in the context of representations of the permutation groups \( S_n \) and the unitary groups \( U(n) \). The scope includes theoretical insights and applications in representation theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about good resources for understanding Young diagrams and tableaux specifically for \( S_n \) and \( U(n) \).
  • Another participant suggests William Fulton's book on Young tableaux as a valuable resource, noting its relevance to \( S_n \) and matrix groups.
  • A participant mentions their professor's assertion that while the applications of Young tableaux are known, the underlying reasons for their effectiveness in determining irreducible representations are less understood, prompting a project to explore this question.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about 'why' questions, stating that there is a substantial understanding of why Young tableaux parametrize the representations of \( S_n \), citing their natural action on labelings and the clarity of the relationship between tableaux and representation theory, and confirms that Fulton's book covers these aspects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to have differing views on the understanding of the reasons behind the effectiveness of Young tableaux. While some assert that there is a clear understanding, others express uncertainty and seek deeper insights.

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Some limitations include the potential density of the suggested resources and the varying levels of clarity regarding the theoretical underpinnings of Young tableaux in representation theory.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers interested in representation theory, particularly those exploring the connections between Young tableaux and permutation groups.

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What are good resources on Young diagrams and tableaux for representations of the permutation groups Sn and the unitary groups U(n) of n x n unitary matrices?
 
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William Fulton has an entire book on S_n (and matrix group) stuff. It's an LMS student text called something like 'Young Tableaux'
 
Thanks, I'll look into that. My professor says that people use Young tableaux to figure out the irreducible representations of the symmetric groups and the unitary groups. However, he says that although people know the applications of Young tableaux, and have proven that they work, there's not much of an understanding as to why they work. As a project, he has asked me to try and figure it out, if possible. He recommended a book by an author named Sagan (forget the title, or the author's first name, but I have the book on hold). Do any resources come to mind that would help with this particular thing, i.e. figuring out why Young tableaux work? Does the Fulton book do this?
 
I went looking for the text for a couple of courses that I took as a student and found it. This book was old when I used it, and is even older now. It looks much denser than I remember and may not be of much use to you. In any case, it is now in the http://www.ima.umn.edu/~miller/symmetrygroups.html" . Chapters 4 and 9 may relevant.

Regards,
George
 
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Hmm, I hate these 'why' questions. I'd say we understand rather well why Y.T. parametrize the reps of S_n, in fact we know a hell of a lot about them (they also parametrize modular reps and one can do many things involving hook lengths, p-cores, abacaus stuff..): they have a natural action on lablellings by S_n hence they are an S_n permutation module, they have an ordering respected by the action and induction and it all seems quite clear why to me, and yes Fulton explains all of this and far much more geometry besides (flag varieties and schubert calculus).
 

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