Group Theory Textbooks: Recommended Books & Numerical Examples

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for textbooks on group theory, particularly for students seeking additional resources to supplement their coursework in a third-year course titled "Groups and Geometry." Participants express a desire for books that include numerous numerical examples and explanations to aid understanding.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests recommendations for group theory textbooks due to insufficient support from lecture notes.
  • Another participant suggests "Abstract Algebra" by J. Gallian as a resource that provides an applied perspective on abstract algebra.
  • A different participant recommends "Topics in Algebra" by Herstein, noting it contains many exercises related to groups of various orders.
  • Some participants discuss the classification of groups into abelian and non-abelian, finite and infinite, and elaborate on properties of finite groups.
  • There is a mention of specific groups such as dihedral groups, Platonic solid groups, and the icosahedral group, with references to their symmetries and orders.
  • Participants explore the calculation of the group of rotations of a cube, discussing the reasoning behind counting elements that leave a vertex fixed.
  • One participant challenges the reasoning behind multiplying the number of rotations that fix one vertex by the total number of vertices, expressing confusion about the application of this principle.
  • Another participant explains the basic counting principle of group theory, introducing the Orbit-Stabilizer Theorem and its implications for understanding group actions.
  • There is a critique of the tendency to memorize theorems without understanding their applications, particularly in the context of group theory problems.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of starting with simple problems to ensure understanding of mathematical concepts, suggesting this approach helps prevent memorization.
  • A participant offers to share their algebra course notes via a personal webpage for further study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of viewpoints regarding the best approaches to learning group theory and the effectiveness of different textbooks. There is no consensus on a single recommended textbook or method, and some disagreements arise concerning the understanding of group actions and the application of theorems.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various group types and properties, but there are unresolved questions about the reasoning behind specific counting methods and the application of theorems in concrete situations.

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hi, can anybody recommend any good textbooks for group theory? I've just started a 3rd year course called groups and geometry and the lecture notes aren't the greatest of help.

The lecturer just writes down some algebra regarding the topics without much notes to support them and doesn't really explain well where things are coming from.

Ideally, I'd like a book showing lots of numerical examples with answers.

Thanks
 
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ElDavidas said:
hi, can anybody recommend any good textbooks for group theory? I've just started a 3rd year course called groups and geometry and the lecture notes aren't the greatest of help.

The lecturer just writes down some algebra regarding the topics without much notes to support them and doesn't really explain well where things are coming from.

Ideally, I'd like a book showing lots of numerical examples with answers.

Thanks

Check out Abstract Algebra by J. Gallian.

It is an applied look on Abstract Algebra.
 
you might try the classic, topics in algebra, by herstein. i recall it has lots of neat exercises about groups of various orders.

but there are two kinds of groups, abelian and non abelian, also finite and infinite.

if you stick to finite groups, then all abelian groups are direct sums of cyclic groups, so that's the whole story. It is kind of fun to decompose, for each n, the group of units of Z(n), into a direct sum of cyclic groups.

Note that when n is prime, that unit group is cyclic of order n-1.


non abelian ones are much more complicated.

the first interesting ones are "dihedral" groups, (symmetries of a polygon), then the platonic solid groups, symmetries of the cube, tetrahedron, and (the first really interesting one) the "icosahedral group", symmetries of the icosahedron, of order 60, and isomorphic to the alternating group A(5).


Of course one should be aware of the symmetric groups S(n), of all permutations of a set of n elements, in which A(n) is the unique normal subgroup of index 2.

I happen to like the Klein group of order 168, a finite matrix group which is also the automorphism group of the projective plane curve x^3Y + Y^3Z + Z^3X, (is that it? I forget after 30 years).

then there are the finite matrix groups, such as general or special linear groups over finite fields.

then once you look at various bilinear forms, there are matrix groups that preserve those form, such as orthogonal (matrices preserving length), or "symplectic" matrix groups (those preserving the basic alternating form).


then people who study riemann surfaces like to investigate the automorphism grioups of various riemann surfaces.

galois theorists are fond of galois groups of finite extensions of the rationals, but no one yet knows whether all finite groups occur this way.

it is interesting that at least all abelian finite groups do occur, and all nilpotent groups of odd order, but it seems controversial whether all finite solvable groups occur, much less all finite groups.


you might start by calvculating the group of rotations of a cube. e.g. how many elements does it have? hint: first compute the number of elements that leave one vertex fixed. then the total number of elements is 8 times that number. do you see why?

in fact this group seems to be isomorphic to the permutation group of 4 objects. proof? (and what are the 4 objects?)
 
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hint: first compute the number of elements that leave one vertex fixed. then the total number of elements is 8 times that number. do you see why?
I don't see why. I mean I see that the number of rotations that leave one vertex fixed is 3 (and these rotations also leave the opposite vertex fixed, with one of them, identity, leaving every vertex fixed), and I know that the group has order 24, but I don't see why I can just look at the rotations that fix one corner and multiply by 8. I also see that there are 8 corners, but I don't see how this helps. No rotation fixes a single vertex, and there are rotations that fix no vertices.

However, the same thing seems to work with the tetrahedron. Given a vertex, there are 3 rotations that fix it, there are 4 vertices, and there are 3 x 4 = |A4| elements of the group.
 
if there are 3 elements that leave your vertex where it is, then there are 3 elements that take it to each other possible destination as well. since a vertex may be sent to any other vertex by some rotation, there are 8 possible destinations for that vertex, and 3 thigns take it toe ach oie of them, so therer are 3(8) rotations in all.


this is the basic counting principle of group theory: given an action of a finite group on a set, pick any point x in that set. then the number of elements in the group equals the order of the orbit of that element, times the order of the isotropy subgroup of that point, i.e. the group leaving that point fixed.


this is used to study conjugacy of elements and subgroups, hence the nature of normal subgroups, etc...

i.e. there are various natural ways a group acts on itself, by translation for example. it also acts on its subgroups by translation and also by conjugation.


this formula then yields the fundamental formula for the index of the normalizer of an element, i.e. the index of the normalizer is the order of the conjugacy class, since the conjugacy class is the orbit of the eolement or subgroup under the action of conjugacy, and the normalizer is the subgroup leaving the object fixed, so the order of the group equals the order of the normalizer times the order of the conjnugacy class, hence the order of the group divided by the order of the normaliozer, i.e. the index of the nromalizer, equals the order of the conjugacy class, mumbo jumbo...


but it is all visible in the case of rotations of polyhedra.


so subgroups and conjugacy classes are just abstract versions of subgroups leaving a vertex fixed, and sets of vertices.
 
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mathwonk said:
if there are 3 elements that leave your vertex where itm is, and there are 8 vertices then there are 3 elements that take it to each of the vertices. since there are 8 destinations for that vertex, and 3 elemenmhbst atke it to each destinåtion, there are in all 24 elements.
Ah, the Orbit-Stabilizer Theorem.
 
yes but this reveals that you may have merely memorized that theorem ratehr than understanding it.

at least at my school, grad students who have studied such stuff in groupo theory books, regularly fail to solve simple problems of this nature about actual concrete group actions.
 
I think the best way to learn anything in math (definitions, theorems, algorithms, etc.) is to first use them in very simple situations/problems. Then, use them in more complex problems, and the more the better. But it's always important, I find, to start with simple problems because doing that is what I think ensures understanding and prevents memorization. I probably never did that with the O-S theorem, but the example you gave is the kind of simple problem I probably needed. Thanks!
 
you are most welcome, and if you wish to pursue the topic along these liens visit my webpage and download my algebra course notes.

http://www.math.uga.edu/~roy/
 

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