Guass' Law (Conducting Cylinder)

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two coaxial cylindrical conductors, one positively charged and the other negatively charged, and requires finding the x-component of the electric field at a specific point. The context is rooted in electrostatics and Gauss's Law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of charge per unit length and the application of Gauss's Law. There are questions about the correct values used in the formulas and how to derive the x-component of the electric field. Some participants express uncertainty about unit conversions and the implications of their calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing calculations and questioning assumptions about charge density. Some have identified potential errors in the original poster's values, leading to a productive exploration of the problem. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the charge density and its impact on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of discrepancies in the values provided in the homework assignment, which may have contributed to confusion and frustration among participants. The original poster indicates that the online homework system may have presented incorrect information, impacting their calculations.

mrshappy0
Messages
97
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Two coaxial cylindrical conductors are shown in perspective and cross-section above. The inner cylinder has radius a = 2 cm, length L = 10 m and carries a total charge of Qinner = + 8 nC (1 nC = 10-9 C). The outer cylinder has an inner radius b = 6 cm, outer radius c = 7 cm, length L = 10 m and carries a total charge of Qouter = - 16 nC (1 nC = 10-9 C). What is Ex, the x-component of the electric field at point P which is located at the midpoint of the length of the cylinders at a distance r = 4 cm from the origin and makes an angle of 30o with the x-axis?

Homework Equations


E∫dA=qenclosed


The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so I found the charge per unit length (λ) which is LGaussσ. λ=0.8 nC. Then I performed the integral and solved for E to get E=qenclo/(2*Pi*ε*r*L). I wasn't sure how to get the x component though but figured it must be just E mag * Cos[theta] but this is wrong. Can anyone help me? I hope I showed enough work to get a response. I can double check my units and everything but I am pretty sure I converted everything to the proper units.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
mrshappy0 said:

Homework Statement



Two coaxial cylindrical conductors are shown in perspective and cross-section above. The inner cylinder has radius a = 2 cm, length L = 10 m and carries a total charge of Qinner = + 8 nC (1 nC = 10-9 C). The outer cylinder has an inner radius b = 6 cm, outer radius c = 7 cm, length L = 10 m and carries a total charge of Qouter = - 16 nC (1 nC = 10-9 C). What is Ex, the x-component of the electric field at point P which is located at the midpoint of the length of the cylinders at a distance r = 4 cm from the origin and makes an angle of 30o with the x-axis?

Homework Equations


E∫dA=qenclosed


The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so I found the charge per unit length (λ) which is LGaussσ. λ=0.8 nC.
If ##\lambda## is charge per unit length, it should have units of C/m.

Then I performed the integral and solved for E to get E=qenclo/(2*Pi*ε*r*L).
What values did you use in the formula?

I wasn't sure how to get the x component though but figured it must be just E mag * Cos[theta] but this is wrong. Can anyone help me? I hope I showed enough work to get a response. I can double check my units and everything but I am pretty sure I converted everything to the proper units.
Please post the figure the problem is referring to.
 
coaxial_1.jpg


Opps I meant qenclosed =0.8nC

r=0.04m
1/(ε*Pi*2)=8.85*10^-12 N*m^2/C^2
L=10m
 
mrshappy0 said:
1/(ε*Pi*2)=8.85*10^-12 N*m^2/C^2
Is that what you really meant? ##\epsilon_0 = 8.85\times10^{-12}~\text{N m}^2\text{/C}^2## by itself.
 
1/(8.85*10^-12 (Pi)*2)=1.79836*10^10
 
Last edited:
Your work looks okay to me. What answer did you get?
 
35.8N/C but this is wrong...
 
Did you multiply by cos 30 since you only want the x-component?
 
Yes and still I had the wrong answer.
 
  • #10
Well I multiplied 35.8 N/C by Cos(30deg)
 
  • #11
What result did you get?
 
  • #12
31.0028 n/c
 
  • #13
It might just be rounding error or the number of significant figures. I get 31.1 N/C to three sig figs.
 
  • #14
I actually entered the formula directly into the online homework thing. I just tried 31.1 N/C and still didn't work. I really dislike the way this homework is set up. Waste of time!
 
  • #15
The OP needs to check his value for linear charge density; it could be that he's using a value that's 10x too small.
 
  • #16
Yup, that's it. I grabbed 0.8 nC from one of your earlier posts, but the original problem said 8 nC.
 
  • #17
Yeah thanks, I ended up figuring it out that it should be 8 not .8. This is very frusterating because the online homework assignment said that is was 0.8. So I wasted a lot of time due to that.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
6K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
7K
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K