MHB Guessing a three digit pin code from an 8 key keypad

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The discussion centers on calculating the probability of correctly guessing a three-digit PIN code from an 8-key keypad, allowing for repetition of digits. Participants clarify that this scenario involves permutations since the order of digits matters, making 123 different from 321. The fundamental counting principle is applied to determine the total number of possible PIN combinations. Given the parameters, there are 512 possible PIN codes (8^3). The probability of a correct guess on the first try is therefore 1 in 512.
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Hello, the problem is as follows. I'm not sure if it is a permutation or combination problem. It says if a thief steals and ATM card and must randomly guess the correct three digit pin code from an 8 key keypad. Repetition of digits is allowed. What is the probability of a correct guess on the first try?
 
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jridgeman99 said:
Hello, the problem is as follows. I'm not sure if it is a permutation or combination problem. It says if a thief steals and ATM card and must randomly guess the correct three digit pin code from an 8 key keypad. Repetition of digits is allowed. What is the probability of a correct guess on the first try?

How many PIN codes are possible...can you apply the fundamental counting principle to answer this question?
 
I'll just add on to Mark's comment that PINs are order-sensitive. 123 is not the same as 321.
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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