Gyroscope (Coriolis Torque and Force)

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The discussion centers on the calculation of total Coriolis torque in a Symon problem, specifically addressing the integration of dm as a function of dθ from 0 to 2π. The original expression for torque was identified as incorrect, necessitating a correction to align with established physics principles. The contributor provided a detailed solution to rectify the discrepancies noted in the textbook, emphasizing the importance of accuracy in such calculations.

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Homework Statement
Using integration, show that the total coriolis torque acting on the gyroscope when the wheel has a mass M is:
$$ \vec{N} = -\frac{1}{2}Mr^2\omega\dot{\theta} \sin \alpha \hat{y} $$
This torque is the basis of the gyrocompass.
The Coriolis force can produce a torque on a spinning object.
The ##\hat{x},\hat{y}## and ##\hat{z}## components of ##d\vec{N}## about the origin due to the coriolis force in the ##xyz## coordinate system which acts on a point mass ##m## on the gyroscope's rim is given by:
$$ d\vec{N} = -2r^{2}\omega\dot{\theta}[(\sin(\alpha)cos(\theta)(\sin\theta)\hat{x}-\cos^{2}(\theta) \sin (\alpha) \hat{y})] \times [dm]$$
##\alpha## is the angle that the gyro makes with the earth and ##\theta## is the angle of the gyroscope that rotates around its axis.
Relevant Equations
Equations for coriolis force and torque.
I know that to prove the total coriolis torque from the coriolis torque on a point mass is to express dm as a function of ##d\theta## and integrate from 0 to ##2\pi## and then the x component disappears due to orthogonality of sine and cosine. But i am stuck at other parts.
 
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This is a Symon problem. I found the given expression for the torque is incorrect. Attached is the solution and an explanation of why the solution does not agree with textbook. I know the policy is not to provide solutions but in this case it's necessary to show the error in the stated problem.
 

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chrisk said:
I know the policy is not to provide solutions but in this case it's necessary to show the error in the stated problem.
In this case it's a 4 year old thread, so posting the solution is fine. Thanks for updating the thread with the correct solution. :smile:
 

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