Half-life exercise, radioactive/non-radioactive ratio

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The discussion revolves around problems related to radioactivity and the concept of half-life, specifically involving the radioactive nitrogen-13 isotope and the decay process. Participants are also exploring a problem regarding the division of a fingernail to reach atomic and nuclear scales.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the remaining mass of a radioactive substance after a set time and to determine the ratios of radioactive to non-radioactive material. They express confusion regarding the ratios and seek clarification on the process.
  • Some participants provide insights into the decay process and the relationship between half-lives and ratios, while others question how to express lengths in scientific notation and relate them to atomic sizes.
  • There is discussion about estimating when the ratio of radioactive to non-radioactive material reaches specific values, and how to approach the fingernail cutting problem in terms of mathematical expressions.

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Participants are working within the constraints of high school-level physics and are encouraged to explore reasoning without being provided complete solutions. There is a focus on understanding the implications of half-lives and ratios in radioactive decay.

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Hey guys,
I've been given a worksheet with a couple of questions concerning radioactivity, half-life etc. It is high school level and for me, it seems like the first year doing physics as our current teacher is the first one who really knows something about the subject. :) So please be patient with me. :)

Homework Statement


"Consider having one kilogram of radioactive nitrogen 13 isotope – half-life is 10 minutes. How much nitrogen will you have after 30 minutes? When is the ratio between radioactive and non-radioactive material 1:31? Estimate when the ratio is 1:10."
So,
m0 = 1 kilogram
mt (final mass) = x
t = 30 minutes
tHL (half-life) = 10 minutes

Homework Equations


mt = m0/2^x

The Attempt at a Solution


mt = 1/2^3 = 0.125 kg (since 3 H-Ls have occurred in the 30mins.) But that is everything I got to. I'm completely lost with the ratios. Could you help me, please?

Next problem:

Homework Statement


"How many times do you have to cut your fingernail in half to separate atoms from each other? How many times to get to atom’s nucleus? (suppose the fingernail is 0.5 cm long)

Homework Equations


Well, as far as I know, the size of an atom should be equal to 10^-10 m while the size of a nucleus is 10^-14 m.

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I need to convert the fingernail's size to a negative power so that it is easier to compute the quotient. So, 0.5 cm = 0.005 m = 5x10^-3 m. And I'm done.. :/ Could someone please explain the process in detail?

Thanks so much!
 
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This might help
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nuclear/halfli.html#c1

In one half-life, approximately half of a radionuclide will decay. Assuming that a radio nuclide decays to a non-radioactive (inert or stable) nuclide, in one half-life, the ratio of radioactive to nonradioactive is 1:1. In two half-lives, one-quarter (1/4) of a radio nuclide remains, which means that 3/4 of the atoms would be non-radioactive, so the ratio (r:nr) = 1:3. What fraction (or proportion) of r atoms remain such that r:nr = 1:31.


The cutting in half is a similar concept. One halves the length, with each cut, so a cut is treated like a half-life.
 
Oh, thanks! So, if I understand it correctly the answer to the first one will be after 5 half-lives, am I right?

Because 1/2^5 = 1/32 -> 1/32 remains radioactive while 31/32 have decayed, i.e. they are not radioactive -> the ratio is 1:31. Correct?

To the second exercise - I understand the concept is the same but the negative powers keep confusing me. I know that I can rewrite 0.005 m as 5x10^-3 m, but what about the rest? The next half will be 0.0025 m - and I don't know how to rewrite it so that I can easily compare it to the size of an atom at the end. Any help?
 
mrcrazyog said:
Oh, thanks! So, if I understand it correctly the answer to the first one will be after 5 half-lives, am I right?

Because 1/2^5 = 1/32 -> 1/32 remains radioactive while 31/32 have decayed, i.e. they are not radioactive -> the ratio is 1:31. Correct?

To the second exercise - I understand the concept is the same but the negative powers keep confusing me. I know that I can rewrite 0.005 m as 5x10^-3 m, but what about the rest? The next half will be 0.0025 m - and I don't know how to rewrite it so that I can easily compare it to the size of an atom at the end. Any help?
Answer to first part of the first problem is correct. Now one has to estimate when the ratio is 1:10.


In the second problem, let x be the remaining length after cutting (in half) N times. Starting with L, after one cut, one has x=L/2, after 2 cuts one has x=L/4, or (L/2)2, now find the expression for x after N cuts.
 
Ok - so the 1:10 ratio will be obtained somewhere between 3 and 4 half-lives, right? 2^3 = 8, 2^4 = 16... I would say something like 3.3 half-lives...?

To the second problem - if I know the final size has to be 10^-10 meters (the size of an atom), the equation should be as follows:
10^(-10) = 0.005 (size of the fingernail) /2^x
Now solve for 2^x:
2^x = 0.005/ 10^(-10) = 50,000,000 half-lives
So, we would have to cut it 50,000,000 times in order to match the size of an atom... Is it right? The figure seems to be quite huge :D
 

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