Radioactive decay, need to find half life

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The problem involves determining the half-life of a radioactive material given that the number of radioactive nuclei decreases to one-fifteenth of the original amount over a period of 26 days. The context is within the subject area of radioactive decay.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the decay equation and the interpretation of variables involved. There are attempts to solve for the half-life using the provided decay rate equation, but some participants express uncertainty about their calculations. Questions are raised regarding the derivation of the equations used and the meaning of the variables.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided interpretations of the decay equation and attempted calculations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct half-life value. Various interpretations of the decay process and the relationship between the time period and the half-life are being explored, with some guidance offered on estimating the half-life based on the decay pattern.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of discrepancies in calculated values for half-life, with one participant suggesting that the answer should be close to 6.5 days based on estimations from the decay process. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to apply formulas and clarify assumptions about the decay process.

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Homework Statement



  1. The number of radioactive nuclei in a particular sample decreases over a period of 26 days to one-fifteenth of the original number. What is the half-life of the radioactive material, in days?

Homework Equations


R=DN/Dt=(lambda)(N)=(N)(ln2/T1/2)

The Attempt at a Solution


DN= N - (1/15)N
DT=26 days
Plugged these in and solved for T(1/2), but CAPA says my answer is wrong.
 
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PhysicsMan999 said:

Homework Statement



  1. The number of radioactive nuclei in a particular sample decreases over a period of 26 days to one-fifteenth of the original number. What is the half-life of the radioactive material, in days?

Homework Equations


R=DN/Dt=(lambda)(N)=(N)(ln2/T1/2)

The Attempt at a Solution


DN= N - (1/15)N
DT=26 days
Plugged these in and solved for T(1/2), but CAPA says my answer is wrong.
What did you get for half-life ?
 
19.3 days
 
Please explain what your variables represent.

Where did you get this equation?
R=DN/Dt=(lambda)(N)=(N)(ln2/T1/2)
 
R=rate of decay
DN= change in number of nuclei
DN=change in time
lambda=decay constant
N=number of nuclei
T1/2= half life
I got the equation from a slide my prof has for our lectures.
 
PhysicsMan999 said:
R=rate of decay
DN= change in number of nuclei
DN=change in time
lambda=decay constant
N=number of nuclei
T1/2= half life
I got the equation from a slide my prof has for our lectures.
Starting with the following (which is equivalent to ##\displaystyle\ N=N_0\,e^{-\ln(2)\,t/t_{1/2}}## )
##\displaystyle\ N=N_0\, e^{-\lambda t}\ ##, where N0 is the number of nuclei at time, t = 0 , (the start),​
and taking the derivative w.r.t. time, we get:
##\displaystyle\ \frac{dN}{dt}=-\lambda N_0e^{-\lambda t}\ =-\lambda N\ .##
Also, ##\displaystyle\ -\lambda N=-\ln(2)/t_{1/2}\ .##​
This is the decay rate, similar to yours, except for a sign. However, it's the instantaneous decay rate, not the same as ΔN/Δt .

By the way, 19.3 days is way off for the half-life. At that rate it would take 38.6 days (2 half-lives) to get to 1/4 the original number of nuclei.

Getting to 1/16 in 28 days would give a half-life of 7 days.
 
Okay, so I'm still not really sure how to solve it..plugging in the numbers just keeps on giving me 19.3..
 
PhysicsMan999 said:
Okay, so I'm still not really sure how to solve it..plugging in the numbers just keeps on giving me 19.3..
Solve ## \displaystyle\ N=N_0\, e^{-\lambda t}\ ## for λ , if t = 26, and N = N0/15 .

Then use your equation to find the corresponding half-life.
 
Dear PM,

In physics it's always good to make an estimate.
You know that after one half-life time, the activity (hence also the number of active nuclei) drops to one half the original number.
After two to one fourth
After three to one eighth
And after four to one sixteenth. So your answer should be close to 26 days / 4 = 6.5 days, and a bit lower.

From the above: Activity = $$A(t) = A(0) / 2^{\;(t/\tau_{1/2})}$$ or$$A(0)/A(t) = 2^{\;(t/\tau_{1/2})}$$ so what you want to solve is ## 2^{\;(26 {\rm \; days}/\tau_{1/2})} = 15## . That sound good ?
 

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