Handsome calculus n00b seeks reassuring relationship with numbers.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a participant's confusion regarding a calculus expression involving exponents, particularly in the context of rational and irrational numbers. The inquiry explores potential links between the properties of exponents and the triangle inequality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • A participant presents the expression y=f(x)=\sqrt[m]{\frac{1}{x^{n}}}=x^{-\frac{n}{m}} and explores the implications of having prime numbers as exponents.
  • Some participants question the validity of the mathematical expressions and clarify the correct forms of the equations.
  • There is a suggestion that the relationship between the exponent and the triangle inequality might exist, but the nature of this link is not clearly defined.
  • One participant provides a specific example to challenge the claim about irrationality, stating that certain values do not yield irrational results.
  • Another participant expresses feelings of embarrassment and confusion about their initial post and the responses received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the mathematical expressions and the implications of the exponents. There is no consensus on the existence of a link to the triangle inequality, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of the expressions presented.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of rational and irrational numbers in the context of the proposed expressions. The discussion also reflects a lack of clarity in the mathematical notation used by the original poster.

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Hi peeps! I have some minor calculus problem, well confusion is the problem.

I was playing about with some numbers while doing some differential calc problems, when i started to explore a little further one expression.

[tex] y=f(x)=\sqrt[m]{\frac{1}{x^{n}}}=x^{-\frac{n}{m}}[/tex] ----- (1)

Of course i thought about rational numbers and primes, and that a rational number is any number which can be expressed as the quotient of two integers.

So assuming:
[tex]n \in Z^+[/tex]
[tex]m \in Z^+[/tex]

I then thought about what if the exponent was a prime, so
[tex]\frac{p}{m}[/tex] where [tex]p=prime[/tex]

Then for:
[tex]1 < m < p[/tex]
The exponent would allways be irrational.

Upon seeing the inequality expresison i wrote down i wondered if there was a link between it and the triangle inequality expression. Is this the case?
 
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god title, but i think its puting people off
 
star.torturer said:
god title, but i think its puting people off

story of my life that :cry:
 
3trQN said:
[tex]y=f(x)=\sqrt[m]{\frac{1}{n}}=x^{-\frac{n}{m}}[/tex] ----- (1)

The last equality isn't true. Do you want:

[tex]\sqrt[m]{\frac{1}{x^n}}=x^{-\frac{n}{m}}[/tex]

or:

[tex]\sqrt[m]{\frac{1}{n}}=n^{-1/m}[/tex] ?
I then thought about what if the exponent was a prime, so
[tex]\frac{p}{m}[/tex] where [tex]p=prime[/tex]

Then for:
[tex]1 < m < p[/tex]
The exponent would allways be irrational.

What does this mean? The exponent is p/m, which is rational when m is rational. Are you saying the function is irrational? This depends on which of the above two functions you're talking about.

Upon seeing the inequality expresison i wrote down i wondered if there was a link between it and the triangle inequality expression. Is this the case?

I don't see what you mean. What kind of link are you thinking of?
 
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Oops i forgot the x, sorry I am latex illiterate. I meant the first correction, edited my post.

Ok ill re-phrase the post to clear things up, apologies.
 
hmm nevermind, its best you all forget i ever posted this...i feel so stupid now :blushing: :redface:
 
It doesn't work. If x = 27, p = 7 and m = 3, then x ^(-p/m) = 27 ^(-7/3) = 1/3^7. None of these are irrational.
 
Yes, ok don't rub it in :smile:
 

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