Harmonic Motion: How Does a Particle Behave Under a Sinusoidal Force?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a particle of mass m moving along a straight line under the influence of a sinusoidal force, specifically F = -F_0 sin(bx). Participants are tasked with finding the potential energy, turning points of motion, and the period of small harmonic oscillations, while addressing the implications of the problem's setup.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the integration of force to find potential energy, questioning the reference point for potential energy and its implications for sketching. There is confusion regarding the relationship between velocity and turning points, with some suggesting that turning points occur when potential energy is maximized. Others express uncertainty about the conditions for small oscillations and the derivation of the period.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the nature of potential energy and turning points, while others are still grappling with the implications of the problem's parameters. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the relationship between different variables and the conditions for small oscillations, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the stress of impending exams and the challenge of interpreting the problem's requirements, particularly regarding the relevance of initial conditions and the potential for extraneous information in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


1. A particle of mass m is constrained to move along a straight line. In a certain
region of motion near x = 0 , the force acting on the particle is F = -F_0 sin(bx) , where F_0 and b are positive constants.

(a) Find the potential energy of the particle in this region. Sketch this potential; label the axes.

(b) If at time t = 0 the particle was at x = 0 and had velocity v_0 , find the turning points of theparticle’s motion.

(c) Find the period of the particle’s small harmonic oscillations about the equilibrium point.
What condition must be satisfied for the oscillations to be “small”?


Homework Equations


F = - dV/dx


The Attempt at a Solution




Part a)
So I get V = -int(F) = - F_0/b cos (bx). But I'm confused about the usual + C you get when doing an integral. I guess that would be V_0 which would be - F_0/b cos (b * x_0)? So does V = -F_0/b cos (bx) - F_0/b cos (bx_0)? And in that case, wouldn't it be pretty impossible to sketch without knowing x_0 which isn't defined in this part of the problem?

part b)

Umm, okay. so I get a=-a_0 sin(bx) = dv/dt. v = integral (a dt) = -a_0 * t * sin(bx) + v_0
So this confuses me, so I guess turning points are when t*sin(bx) = v_0/a_0? That's kind of a random answer and doesn't sit well.

part c)

I have no idea
 
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The reference point of potential energy is arbitrary; you can choose it to be whatever you want. I strongly suggest that you review the derivation of gravitational potential energy and/or electrostatic potential energy (both linear approximation and also inverse square law), and review the derivation of the potential energy of a simple harmonic oscillator (e.g. a mass on a spring). There are "standard" reference points, and these examples should give you an idea (especally the SHO, ;) ).

For part (b), think about what happens to the different energies (at the turning points).

BTW, if I'm not mistaken, your problem actually describes a pendulum in disguise.
 
Oh, I guess I was going about it wrong. I was looking at when v=0 for turning points, but I should be looking at when U is maximum.

So when x = integer multiples of pi/b. But then, why was that other stuff put in the problem about v_0? And that doesn't help me with part c.
 
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Maybe you're confusing vee's. There are two of them: capital V means potential energy; lower-case v means velocity. These are completely different. Maybe use capital U for potential energy to save confusion.

For part (c), give me something more to work with.
 
No, I wasn't confusing them. part b says

(b) If at time t = 0 the particle was at x = 0 and had velocity v_0 , find the turning points of the particle’s motion.

But I can find the turning points using U when it is maximized, as you indicated. When x=pi/b * integer. So the problem has a bunch of extraneous information?

c) Find the period of the particle’s small harmonic oscillations about the equilibrium point.
What condition must be satisfied for the oscillations to be “small”?

I know it's small when bx can be substituted for sin(bx).

T = (2*pi)/sqrt(k/m) is all I can think of. but then how to get k?
 
thanks for helping, btw. I'm just stressed because my midterm is tomorrow and I can't even do these problems from the practice test and I can't afford to fail this test or this this class. But I just can't seem to get it.
 
OOOH, can it be that A = pi/b (the turning point)! And A=v_0*T/2pi so T=2pi^2/(b*v_0)

Can that be right?

What kind of professor doesn't post the solution to the practice exam? sigh.
 
superdave said:
I know it's small when bx can be substituted for sin(bx).
Good. But, if this is on your test, then your prof is probably also wanting you to justify this approximation. In other words, say something about sin(bx)-bx, or something about the next term in the Taylor series.

superdave said:
T = (2*pi)/sqrt(k/m) is all I can think of. but then how to get k?
That's not how I would do it, but that will work. Make that small-angle substitution in the force equation, and then compare to Hooke's law.
 

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