Harmonic Oscillator, overlap in states

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The problem involves a particle initially in the ground state of a harmonic oscillator that experiences a sudden shift in equilibrium position. The task is to find the probability of the particle being in the first excited state after this shift.

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  • Participants discuss the overlap of the shifted ground state wavefunction with the first excited state wavefunction. There are questions regarding the correct wavefunctions to use and the implications of the shift in equilibrium.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct wavefunctions to consider, while others are clarifying the definitions of the states involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical expressions and their interpretations.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the notation of the wavefunctions, specifically whether to use the original or shifted states. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the assumptions made about the initial state of the particle.

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Particle originally sits in ground state about x=0. Equilibrium is suddenly shifted to x=s. Find probability of particle being in new first excited state.

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Shifted wavefunctions are for ground state: ##\phi'_0 = \frac{\alpha^{\frac{1}{2}}}{\pi^{\frac{1}{4}}} e^{ -\frac{\alpha^2}{2}(x-s)^2}## and for first excited state: ##\phi'_1 = \frac{2\alpha^{\frac{3}{2}}}{\pi^{\frac{1}{4}}} (x-s) e^{-\frac{\alpha^2}{2} (x-s)^2}##.

When the equilibrium is shifted to x=s, the particle's ground state at x=0 wavefunction becomes:

[tex]\phi'_{0(0)} = \frac{\alpha^{\frac{1}{2}}}{\pi^{\frac{1}{4}}} e^{-\frac{\alpha^2}{2}s^2}[/tex]

To find probability of it being in first excited state, we overlap it with the first excited state:

[tex]\langle \phi'_1|\phi'_{0(0)}\rangle[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{2\alpha^2}{\pi^{\frac{1}{2}}} e^{-\frac{(\alpha s)^2}{2}} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}(x-s) e^{-\frac{\alpha^2}{2}(x-s)^2 } dx[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{2\alpha^2}{\pi^{\frac{1}{2}}} e^{-\frac{(\alpha s)^2}{2}} \left[ \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} (x-2s)e^{-\frac{\alpha^2}{2}(x-s)^2} dx + \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}s \space e^{-\frac{\alpha^2}{2}(x-s)^2} \right] dx[/tex]

Now, we let ##2s = b## and ##a = \frac{\alpha}{\sqrt 2}## and change ##x## to ##x-s## for the second integral:

[tex]=\frac{2\alpha^2}{\pi^{\frac{1}{2}}} e^{-\frac{(\alpha s)^2}{2}} \left[ -\frac{(2s)\pi^{\frac{1}{2}}}{\sqrt 2 \alpha} dx + s \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-\frac{\alpha^2}{2}x'^2} dx' \right][/tex]

[tex]=\frac{2\alpha^2}{\pi^{\frac{1}{2}}} e^{-\frac{(\alpha s)^2}{2}} \left[ -\frac{\sqrt 2 \pi^{\frac{1}{2}}s}{\alpha} + s\pi^{\frac{1}{2}} \frac{\sqrt 2}{\alpha} \right][/tex]

[tex]= 0[/tex]
 
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What you're looking for is [itex]\langle \phi'_1|\phi_{0}\rangle^2[/itex]
 
dauto said:
What you're looking for is [itex]\langle \phi'_1|\phi_{0}\rangle^2[/itex]

Why is it ##\phi_0## and not ##\phi_0'##?
 
Because the particle was in the state [itex]\phi_0[/itex], not [itex]\phi_0'[/itex]
 
dauto said:
Because the particle was in the state [itex]\phi_0[/itex], not [itex]\phi_0'[/itex]

Got it, thanks!
 
dauto said:
What you're looking for is [itex]\langle \phi'_1|\phi_{0}\rangle^2[/itex]

I did that, and I got an answer of ##2(\alpha s)^2##..
 

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