Harmonic Oscillator Problem: Energy Levels & Ground State

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The discussion revolves around a two-dimensional harmonic oscillator, focusing on the Hamiltonian operator, allowable energy levels, and the ground state energy. Participants are exploring the formulation of the Hamiltonian and its implications in quantum mechanics.

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  • Participants are attempting to express the Hamiltonian operator for a two-dimensional harmonic oscillator and are discussing the need to include kinetic energy terms for both dimensions. Questions arise regarding the correct formulation and the relationship between the Hamiltonian and the Schrödinger equation.

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There is an active exploration of the Hamiltonian's expression, with some participants providing partial formulations and others questioning the completeness and correctness of those expressions. Guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the Hamiltonian and its components, but no consensus has been reached on the final form.

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Participants are navigating through the requirements of the problem, including the need to consider both x and y dimensions in the Hamiltonian. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in transitioning from the Hamiltonian to the Schrödinger equation.

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Problem:
Consider a harmonic oscillator of mass m undergoing harmonic motion in two dimensions x and y. The potential energy is given by
V(x,y) = (1/2)kxx2 + (1/2)kyy2.
(a) Write down the expression for the Hamiltonian operator for such a system.
(b) What is the general expression for the allowable energy levels of the two-dimensional harmonic oscillator?
(c) What is the energy of the ground state (the lowest energy state)?

Hint: The Hamiltonian operator can be written as a sum of operators.

Now I'm a bit lost on how to write the expression for the Hamiltonian.
Is the Hamiltonian simply H = - h2/2m d2/dx2 + V(x,y) [where V(x,y) is given above]?
Then with that Hamiltonian, solving the Schrödinger eqn is pretty straightforward to get H*psi = E*psi, now I'm a bit lost here as well to solve for the general expression for the allowable energy levels?
 
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Metallichem said:
Problem:
Consider a harmonic oscillator of mass m undergoing harmonic motion in two dimensions x and y. The potential energy is given by
V(x,y) = (1/2)kxx2 + (1/2)kyy2.
(a) Write down the expression for the Hamiltonian operator for such a system.
(b) What is the general expression for the allowable energy levels of the two-dimensional harmonic oscillator?
(c) What is the energy of the ground state (the lowest energy state)?

Hint: The Hamiltonian operator can be written as a sum of operators.

Now I'm a bit lost on how to write the expression for the Hamiltonian.
Is the Hamiltonian simply H = - h2/2m d2/dx2 + V(x,y) [where V(x,y) is given above]?
Almost. You need to include a term for the kinetic energy due to movement in the y-direction.

Then with that Hamiltonian, solving the Schrödinger eqn is pretty straightforward to get H*psi = E*psi, now I'm a bit lost here as well to solve for the general expression for the allowable energy levels?
Have you solved the one-dimensional harmonic oscillator already?
 
I can represent the Hamiltonian as a sum of operators like this?
\hat{H} = \hat{H_x} + \hat{H_y}
 
Yes, depending on what you mean by Hx and Hy.
 
I get this, this is the general expresion of Hamiltonian Operator for the Quantum Harmonic Oscillator ??

[-ħ/2m (d^2 Ψ_x)/(dx^2 )+1/2 k_x x^2 Ψ_x ]+[-ħ/2m (d^2 Ψ_y)/(dy^2 )+1/2 k_y y^2 Ψ_y ]= EΨ_x Ψ_y
 
Part (a) is simply asking you for the operator ##\hat{H}##. The wave function doesn't appear in that expression. You wrote in your first post
$$\hat{H} = -\frac{\hbar^2}{2m} \frac{d^2}{dx^2} + V(x,y)$$ which isn't correct, but it's essentially the type of answer you want to give for (a). You just need to correct it, which I think you know how to do.

The Schrödinger equation says what happens when you apply that operator to a wave function:
$$\hat{H}\psi(x,y) = \hat{H}_x \psi(x,y) + \hat{H}_y \psi(x,y) = E \psi(x,y)$$ Note that the two pieces act on the same function. If you assume the solution has the form ##\psi(x,y) = \psi_x(x)\psi_y(y)##, you'll get something similar to what you have. Your expression isn't quite correct. You're getting there though.
 

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