Harmonic oscillator (quantum vs classical)

In summary, the apparent contradiction between the pdf's of the QM ground state solution to the harmonic oscillator and its classical counterpart at the same energy can be explained by comparing the corresponding states rather than the corresponding energy. The author emphasizes that we should compare between these states, but it can be difficult to find the corresponding states between classical and quantum mechanics. The easiest solution is to compare the ground states, even though there may be no energy difference due to different definitions of the origin of energy in classical and quantum mechanics. This is also related to the problem of zero point energy, which has been a struggle for many physicists. Some believe that the corresponding state to the classical harmonic oscillator is the coherent state of the quantum mechanical oscillator.
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(I am referring to section 3.1 in Burkhardt's "Foundations of Quantum Physics", if you happen to have the book.)

In that book it's pointed out that the apparent contradiction between the pdf's of the QM ground state solution to the harmoinc oscillator with its classical conterpart (at the same energy = ℏω/2) is due to the comparison setup itself; we should compare the corresponding states rather than the corresponding energy. so QM's groud state with E = ℏω/2 and the classical E = 0. But why? shouldn't energy defines the system uniquely so when we make comparison we use the same energy?
 
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The author's intention is to emphasize that we should compare between the "corresponding" states. However, it's difficult to find the "corresponding"states among the completely different model, namely classical and quantum mechanics. The easiest solution is the ground states. It's a plausible idea that the ground states should be corresponding.

As for the energy difference, we should be careful about how to define the the origin of the energy. Classically, one can define the origin of the energy by the energy of the rest. However, in the quantum mechanics, there is no "rest state" because of the uncertainty principle. One conventional definition is the energy of nothing (this is different from the energy of the quantum mechanical vacuum). Another conventional definition is the energy of the ground state. So if we take that attitude, there is no energy difference. Your question is closely related to the problem of the zero point energy, which many physicist have (even now?) struggled to deal with.

Many people also think that the corresponding state to the classical harmonic oscillator should be the coherent state of the quantum mechanical oscillator.
 

1. What is the difference between a quantum harmonic oscillator and a classical harmonic oscillator?

The main difference between a quantum harmonic oscillator and a classical harmonic oscillator is how they behave at the microscopic level. A classical harmonic oscillator follows classical mechanics and can have any energy level, while a quantum harmonic oscillator follows quantum mechanics and can only have discrete energy levels.

2. How does the energy of a quantum harmonic oscillator change with increasing energy levels?

The energy of a quantum harmonic oscillator increases in discrete steps, with each energy level corresponding to a specific quantum state. As the energy level increases, the spacing between the energy levels decreases, resulting in higher energy states being less distinguishable.

3. Can a classical harmonic oscillator exhibit quantum behavior?

No, a classical harmonic oscillator cannot exhibit quantum behavior. This is because it follows classical mechanics and does not have discrete energy levels like a quantum harmonic oscillator does.

4. What is the zero-point energy of a quantum harmonic oscillator?

The zero-point energy of a quantum harmonic oscillator is the minimum amount of energy that the oscillator can have, even at its lowest energy state. This is due to the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics.

5. How is the wave function of a quantum harmonic oscillator related to its energy levels?

The wave function of a quantum harmonic oscillator describes the probability of finding the oscillator in a particular energy state. As the energy level increases, the number of nodes in the wave function also increases, resulting in a more complex wave function.

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