Having problem solving a limit

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The discussion revolves around solving a limit problem involving the expression lim x->5 (x^2 - 25) / (√(2x+6) - 4). Participants are exploring algebraic methods to evaluate this limit.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss factoring the numerator and multiplying by the conjugate of the denominator as potential strategies. There are questions about the validity of these approaches and whether they are the correct routes to take. Some participants express uncertainty about their methods.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different algebraic techniques, with some participants suggesting methods like multiplying by the conjugate. While some have arrived at similar conclusions, there is no explicit consensus on the final outcome, and the discussion remains open for further input.

Contextual Notes

Several participants note that both the numerator and denominator evaluate to zero at x=5, indicating a need for further simplification. There is also mention of homework constraints that may affect the approaches taken.

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having problem solving a limit!

Homework Statement



Solve the following limits algebraically.

lim x->5 x^2 - 25 / √(2x+6) -4

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



i've tried a different few ways.

so by factoring the top i have (x+5)(x-5) so i get x=5 or x=-5, and while 5 is the limit, -5 on top with the square it will just render the negative sign useless.

tried to multiply the bottom cognitive
(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/(√(2x+6)-4)(√(2x+6)+4) =
=(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/(√(2x+6))^2 - (4)^2 =
=(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/2x+6-16=
=(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/2x-10

i'm stuck here and i doubt this is even the proper route.
 
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the_morbidus said:

Homework Statement



Solve the following limits algebraically.

lim x->5 x^2 - 25 / √(2x+6) -4

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



i've tried a different few ways.

so by factoring the top i have (x+5)(x-5) so i get x=5 or x=-5, and while 5 is the limit, -5 on top with the square it will just render the negative sign useless.

tried to multiply the bottom cognitive
(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/(√(2x+6)-4)(√(2x+6)+4) =
=(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/(√(2x+6))^2 - (4)^2 =
=(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/2x+6-16=
=(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/2x-10

i'm stuck here and i doubt this is even the proper route.

Multiplying by the conjugate over itself is a useful approach.

[tex]\lim_{x \to 5}\frac{(x-5)(x+5)}{\sqrt{2x+6}-4}\cdot \frac{\sqrt{2x+6} + 4}{\sqrt{2x+6} + 4}[/tex]
[tex]= \lim_{x \to 5}\frac{(x-5)(x+5)(\sqrt{2x+6} + 4)}{(\sqrt{2x+6}-4) \cdot (\sqrt{2x+6} + 4)}[/tex]
Can you take it from here?
 


Solve the following limits algebraically.

lim x->5 x^2 - 25 / √(2x+6) -4

What you really mean is
[tex]Lim_{x\rightarrow 5} \frac{x^2-25}{\sqrt{2x+6}-4}[/tex]

...

Most of your work looks good. Try then dividing numerator and denominator by either x, or x^2 ?
 


Mark44 said:
Multiplying by the conjugate over itself is a useful approach.

[tex]\lim_{x \to 5}\frac{(x-5)(x+5)}{\sqrt{2x+6}-4}\cdot \frac{\sqrt{2x+6} + 4}{\sqrt{2x+6} + 4}[/tex]
[tex]= \lim_{x \to 5}\frac{(x-5)(x+5)(\sqrt{2x+6} + 4)}{(\sqrt{2x+6}-4)\cdot (\sqrt{2x+6} + 4)}[/tex]
Can you take it from here?

He appeared to be doing that; maybe I was confused looking at all the steps and symbols through text?
EDIT: Give me the chance to try the problem myself; maybe more comment later.

OK, very neat. Just multiplying numerator and denominator by conjugate gives you something to simplify and then simple substitution of x=5 can be evaluated with no complications.
 
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the_morbidus said:

Homework Statement



Solve the following limits algebraically.

lim x->5 x^2 - 25 / √(2x+6) -4

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



i've tried a different few ways.

so by factoring the top i have (x+5)(x-5) so i get x=5 or x=-5, and while 5 is the limit, -5 on top with the square it will just render the negative sign useless.

tried to multiply the bottom cognitive
(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/(√(2x+6)-4)(√(2x+6)+4) =
=(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/(√(2x+6))^2 - (4)^2 =
=(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/2x+6-16=
=(x^2-25)(√(2x+6)+4)/2x-10

i'm stuck here and i doubt this is even the proper route.
Both numerator and denominator are 0 when x= 5 therefore both have a factor of x- 5:
[tex]\frac{(x- 5)(x+ 5)(\sqrt{2x+ 6}+ 4)}{2(x- 5)}[/tex]
 


thank you guys, when I woke up this morning and having looked at a few other problems I arrived at the same solution as HallsofIvy, I then removed the (x-5) and substituted the x for 5 and i got 40 as the limit I think.
 


the_morbidus said:
thank you guys, when I woke up this morning and having looked at a few other problems I arrived at the same solution as HallsofIvy, I then removed the (x-5) and substituted the x for 5 and i got 40 as the limit I think.

Yes, and in fact, you both think and KNOW for sure now.
 

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