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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on calculating the final air temperature in an office with a volume of 52.5 m³ using a heat engine that outputs 1200 W. The initial conditions are 1 atm pressure and 20 degrees Celsius. The participant calculated the mass of air as 64.3125 kg and attempted to use the equation Q = mcΔT with a molar heat capacity of C_v = 5/2 R. However, the calculated temperature rise was less than 1 degree Celsius, while the expected rise was between 10 to 20 degrees Celsius, indicating a discrepancy in assumptions or calculations.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of thermodynamics principles, specifically heat transfer.
  • Familiarity with the ideal gas law and molar heat capacities.
  • Proficiency in using the equation Q = mcΔT for heat calculations.
  • Basic knowledge of unit conversions, particularly between different temperature scales.
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  • Review the ideal gas law and its applications in thermodynamic problems.
  • Study the concept of molar heat capacities for diatomic gases.
  • Learn about the assumptions involved in heat transfer calculations in real environments.
  • Explore the impact of time on heat transfer and temperature change in closed systems.
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Students studying thermodynamics, physics educators, and anyone involved in heat engine analysis or HVAC system design will benefit from this discussion.

Matt Armstrong

Homework Statement


An office with a volume of 52.5 m^3 uses a heat engine that outputs 1200 W. Suppose that, initially, the office has a pressure of 1 atm and 20 degrees Celsius before the heater is turned on. After 10 minutes (6000 seconds), what is the final air temperature?

Homework Equations


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1 atm = 101325 Pa

20 + 273 = 293 K

Q = mc*ΔT ?

The Attempt at a Solution



At first, I thought this was a simple heat problem. I used the density of air and the volume to get a mass of 64.3125 kg. However, our book does not list the specific heat capacity of air, and I feel the answer I get may be a little contrived if I used values found on Google instead of using the variables given in the problem. However, I feel I may be using the wrong equation. I searched through my textbook and lecture notes, but I couldn't find any equations that I thought were relevant to the problem or had variables I could solve for with the given information. What is the equation I am supposed to be using here?
 
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You’re using the right equation. What is the molar heat capacity at constant volume of an ideal diatomic gas in terms of the ideal gas constant R?
 
Chestermiller said:
You’re using the right equation. What is the molar heat capacity at constant volume of an ideal diatomic gas in terms of the ideal gas constant R?

I used 5/2*R for C_v. However, this does not line up with my professors predicted temperature rise. The rise I got was less than a degree Celsius, but the answer we are supposed to get is between 10 to 20 degrees Celsius (though he writes that it is based on 'terrible assumptions' due to how heat works with any environment)
 
Matt Armstrong said:
I used 5/2*R for C_v. However, this does not line up with my professors predicted temperature rise. The rise I got was less than a degree Celsius, but the answer we are supposed to get is between 10 to 20 degrees Celsius (though he writes that it is based on 'terrible assumptions' due to how heat works with any environment)
Let’s see your work.
 
Chestermiller said:
Let’s see your work.

My apologies for not including. With Q=mcΔT, where heat = 1200, mass = 64.3125 kg, c = 5/2 R and ΔT = (T_f - 20), my final answer was 20.898 rounded to the thousandths.
 
Matt Armstrong said:
My apologies for not including. With Q=mcΔT, where heat = 1200, mass = 64.3125 kg, c = 5/2 R and ΔT = (T_f - 20), my final answer was 20.898 rounded to the thousandths.
Let’s see your work.
 
How many gram moles is 64.3125 kg of air? What happened to the 600 seconds?
 

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