Heat sink + a shunt copper tape. Why shunt copper not equal to heat sink temp?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the thermal behavior of a copper tape used as a heat transfer medium between a processor and a heatsink. Participants explore the unexpected temperature readings of the copper tape compared to the heatsink, considering factors such as thermal conductivity, measurement techniques, and potential heat loss along the tape's length.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a setup where a copper tape connects a processor to a heatsink, noting that the tape remains at ambient temperature while the heatsink heats up.
  • Another participant suggests that the observed temperature difference might be due to errors in data collection or calibration of the temperature measurement equipment.
  • A question is raised regarding the proximity of the temperature measurement to the heatsink, implying that distance could affect readings.
  • One participant proposes that heat loss along the 8cm length of the tape could contribute to the temperature discrepancy.
  • Another suggests measuring temperatures at both ends of the tape to test the hypothesis of heat loss.
  • It is noted that if the heatsink is hotter than the tape, it may indicate that the heatsink is being cooled by the tape rather than the other way around.
  • Concerns are expressed about the thermal resistance of the thin tape, which could lead to a significant temperature gradient along its length.
  • Clarification is requested regarding the setup, particularly the arrangement of the tape and heatsink, to better understand the thermal dynamics at play.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the measurements and the setup, with no consensus on the underlying reasons for the temperature differences observed. Multiple competing views regarding the causes of the phenomenon remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in the setup, such as the influence of thermal resistance and heat loss along the tape, as well as the need for accurate calibration of measurement tools. These factors are acknowledged but not resolved.

zhiling0229
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Hi everyone,

I'm working on a project where the processor is attached to a copper tape about 8cm long where it sticks from 1 end of the processor case to the other while remaining length was insulated with a cardboard. the other end was slightly exposed for temperature measurement

The exposed copper tape on the processor is connected to a heatsink. (i.e processor case -> copper tape -> heat sink)

The strange thing is the copper tape is at ambient temperature when i force the heat sink fan to stop running but the heat sink itself is heating up.

I have done:

1. applied thermal grease on the copper tape and heat sink
2. remove any sticker residue on the tape so is only pure copper.

Is this a normal phenomena, if yes could you advice how does this relates to the theory of conductivity?

Thank you in advance
 
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zhiling0229 said:
The exposed copper tape on the processor is connected to a heatsink. (i.e processor case -> copper tape -> heat sink)

The strange thing is the copper tape is at ambient temperature when i force the heat sink fan to stop running but the heat sink itself is heating up.

Sounds to me like there was an error in your data collection, because unless the hetasink is generating heat on its own, it has to be conducting through your intermediate component.

I'd suggest taking your temperature data again, making sure your data collection equipment is properly calibrated and attached.
 
How close to the heatsink are your measuring the tape temperature?
 
Thanks for the response. I think there is something wrong too and rechecking my setup and calibration.

The length of the copper tape is approximately 8cm I have insulated the exposed area with cardboard. Can it be due to the heat loss when it travel across the 8cm length?
 
Well, you could test your hypothesis with a temperature measurement at the start and at the end of the tape.
 
Heat flows from hot to cold- so if your heatsink is hotter than the copper strip this means the heatsink is actually being cooled by the tape rather than visa-versa.

Check your setup first, and make sure your data collection is set up properly.
 
zhiling0229 said:
The strange thing is the copper tape is at ambient temperature when i force the heat sink fan to stop running but the heat sink itself is heating up.

The tape will be losing heat all over its surface, despite insulation. This small heat loss can cause a large temperature gradient along its length because it has a high thermal resistance (very thin).

Use a thicker or shorter "tape" so that its thermal conductance is large compared to the heat loss from its surface.
 
Unrest said:
The tape will be losing heat all over its surface, despite insulation. This small heat loss can cause a large temperature gradient along its length because it has a high thermal resistance (very thin).

Use a thicker or shorter "tape" so that its thermal conductance is large compared to the heat loss from its surface.

None of this addresses the fact that his heatsink is apparently hotter than the tape going to it...
 
Mech_Engineer said:
None of this addresses the fact that his heatsink is apparently hotter than the tape going to it...

The OP was a bit unclear (can you clarify, Zhiling?). But it sounds like the tape is sandwiched between the heatsink and the processor, with an extra length hanging off the end, connected to a temperature sensor. In that case it's reasonable for the heatsink to be hotter than the free end of the tape.
 

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