Heat sinking to Aluminum block and dissipation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around estimating heat sinking and dissipation in an aluminum structure used to cool a hot liquid. Participants explore the thermal properties of aluminum, the energy required to heat the structure, and its ability to dissipate heat under specific conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about estimating heat sinking and dissipation in an aluminum structure, noting the importance of mass and surface area in the cooling process.
  • Another participant suggests looking up specific heat tables for aluminum and calculating the heat energy contained in the hot liquid using its temperature, specific heat, and mass.
  • A participant shares that their calculations indicate the aluminum structure will not hold much energy as heat, but emphasizes the importance of estimating heat dissipation.
  • There is a discussion about determining the U value for heat loss, with one participant questioning whether to use the temperature difference above ambient for calculations.
  • A formula for calculating power loss is presented, which relates U value, area, and temperature gradient.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculations and methods for estimating heat dissipation, indicating that multiple competing approaches remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best method or values to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention uncertainties regarding the use of U values, the complexity of determining forced air U values, and the specific conditions under which calculations are made, such as ambient temperature and desired structure temperature.

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I am curious if someone can help be estimate heat sinking and dissipation in an Aluminum structure? What I am trying to do is is cool a hot liquid by just allowing it to heat the structure it is in since there is a reasonable amount of mass. Though the Aluminum structure is not designed specifically to dissipate, this becomes just a function of dT and surface area mostly.


power in is about 1000w max, structure is estimated at about 30 ci, and 352in2 of area. There is not active fan but that can be added really needed. Ambient temp not to exceed 110F and structure temp just should not "burn you". Vague, I know...

I am just trying to figure out the energy required to heat the structure, and it's ability to dissipate the heat.
 
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As a start, you'll need to look up tables of specific heat, to find the value for aluminum.

You can figure out how much heat energy is contained in the hot liquid by multiplying its temperature by its specific heat by its mass.
 
Thanks for that. From the calcs I have run, this structure of Al will not hold much energy as heat.

However, more importantly, the dissipation. I determined the U value as 36 (btu/ft2 F)but I cannot remember if I would use the dT above ambient? IE Ambient is 100F structure is 110F, surface area is 2.5ft2 so heat loss is 900btu?

Determining forced air U values seems much more complex so I am just trying to roughly estimate that.
 
Power = UValue * Area * ΔT

where ΔT is the temperature gradient between the same two points used to calculate the UValue.
 

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