Heat Transfer Calculations for Hot Pipe Coil Setup

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around heat transfer calculations for a setup involving a coil installed around a hot pipe to extract heat for heating a fluid. Participants are exploring methods and formulas to estimate the heat transfer and determine the necessary length of the coil to achieve a specific temperature target.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests consulting a heat transfer textbook, particularly the chapters on convection and heat exchangers, to find relevant methods and formulas.
  • It is noted that estimating heat transfer coefficients for both the inside of the pipe and the coiled tube is necessary, along with the thermal conductivity of the materials and the physical dimensions of the setup.
  • Another participant highlights the challenge of achieving good contact between the hot pipe and the coil, proposing an alternative of coiling the hot pipe itself and placing it in a tank with the liquid to be heated.
  • A similar suggestion is made regarding the use of a concentric pipe design as a pseudo shell and tube heat exchanger.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the optimal design for heat transfer, with some advocating for the original coil setup and others proposing modifications to improve efficiency. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieve effective heat transfer.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached consensus on specific methods or designs, and there are unresolved considerations regarding the effectiveness of contact between the hot pipe and the coil.

Harkaran Singh
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Hi guys,
I need help with heat transfer calculations
The scenario is : Installing a coil around a hot pipe and extract the heat from the hot pipe to heat the fluid flowing through the coil. The whole assembly is insulated.
I need methods/formulas to calculate the amount of heat transferred so that I can estimate the length of the coil required to reach the temperature target?
Any suggestions/advice will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
 
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You should begin by looking in a heat transfer textbook in the convection chapter, and then look at the heat exchanger chapter. You will need to estimate the heat transfer coefficients inside the pipe and inside your coiled tube. You will also need the conductivity for the pipe and tube materials, and the physical dimensions of the assembled device. The coiling of the tube around the pipe is a complication but once you understand how to solve the problem for straight pipes I think you can work out the effects of the coiling.
 
Harkaran Singh said:
The scenario is : Installing a coil around a hot pipe and extract the heat from the hot pipe to heat the fluid flowing through the coil. The whole assembly is insulated.

It's hard getting good contact between the hot pipe and coil. You might do better by making the hot pipe into a coil and putting that into a tank containing the liquid to be heated.
 
CWatters said:
It's hard getting good contact between the hot pipe and coil. You might do better by making the hot pipe into a coil and putting that into a tank containing the liquid to be heated.
Or running a concentric pipe as a pseudo shell and tube hx.
 

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