Heat Treating ASTM A709 Grade A Steel

  • Thread starter Thread starter Mm22
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Heat Steel
Click For Summary
To determine the appropriate temperature and time for heat treating ASTM A709 Grade A steel, one must first identify the specific alloying elements and the desired mechanical properties. The heat treatment process is not one-size-fits-all; it varies based on the intended application, such as annealing, hardening, or bending. Understanding the Isothermal Transformation Diagram for the alloy is crucial, as it indicates the phases achieved at different temperature and time combinations. Additionally, not all grades under ASTM A709 are heat treatable, so knowing the exact grade and its heat treatment capabilities is essential. The discussion emphasizes the importance of aligning heat treatment methods with the specific requirements of the application.
Mm22
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
If I know the standard of the steal I have let's say ASTM A709 grade A how do I determine the temperature and time necessary for any heat treatment to be done on it?
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
Welcome to PF. :smile:

Mm22 said:
If I know the standard of the steal I have let's say ASTM A709 grade A how do I determine the temperature and time necessary for any heat treatment to be done on it?
I did a quick Google search on heat treating ASTM grade steel and got good hits. Here is one of the first ones:

https://www.asminternational.org/documents/10192/1849770/ACF180B.pdf

1668014441537.png
 
Mm22 said:
If I know the standard of the steal I have let's say ASTM A709 grade A how do I determine the temperature and time necessary for any heat treatment to be done on it?
"Heat treating" it is too general a term. What do you wish to accomplish with the treatment is the question you need answer. You need to determine what the alloying elements are in the steel, and there will be an associated Isothermal Transformation Diagram for the alloy. It will tell you which phase (phases) you will land in for a certain temperature/time combination. Different phases have different mechanical properties.

Thats about all I remember, but maybe it can be of some use.
 
When I search A709 steel, I get the following hit (among others):

***********************
ASTM A709/A709M-21
An ASTM designation number identifies a unique version of an ASTM standard.
A0709_A0709M-21
A = Ferrous Metals
0709 = assigned sequential number
M = SI units
21 = year of original adoption (or, In the case of revision, the last year of last revision)

Standard Specification for Structural Steel for Bridges

Abstract
This specification covers carbon and high-strength low alloy steel structural shapes, plates and bars, and quenched and tempered alloy steel for structural plates intended for use in bridges.
***********************

The ASTM Specification A709 covers several grades of steel, some of which might not be heat treatable. In order to heat treat steel, you need to know the exact grade, what heat treatments are possible for that grade, the mechanical properties resulting from those heat treatments, and what mechanical properties are needed for your application.

What is your application?
 
Mm22 said:
... how do I determine the temperature and time necessary for any heat treatment ...
Are you annealing, bending or hardening ?
Is the structure an elastic or plastic design ?
Will you bolt the joints, or pre-heat or post-heat the welds ?
 
My idea is that I want to use immerse Whitetail Antlers in a fishtank to measure their volumetric displacement (the Boone and Crockett system is the current record measurement standard to place in a juxtaposition with) I would use some sight glass plumbed into the side of the tank to get the change in height so that I can multiply by the tank cross-section. Simple Idea. But... Is there a simple mechanical way to amplify the height in the sight glass to increase measurement precision...

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
7K
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K