William Ray
Chestermiller said:Thanks. I agree. Apparently William Ray and Spinnor don't get the idea that, if you put a thermometer in a bucket of ice water, the temperature you measure will be 0C.
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I'm not sure where you get the impression that I don't get that idea. I don't believe anyone's disagreeing with you that the surface of the ground will not exceed 0C. I also don't see why you think this is relevant to the question you asked. You are aware that the temperature of the air, (as well as the black-body temperature of the night sky, though it seems we're mostly ignoring radiation here), are significantly below 0C for much of the winter, in many parts of the world?
If you can find anything in what I've said that suggests that there is not an upper limit to the temperature that the sub-snow ground can attain, I'll eat my shorts. Otherwise I believe you're off base here.
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