Help distance from pivot x to balance beam?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a balance beam and the distance from a pivot point required to achieve equilibrium. The context suggests a focus on forces and moments in a physics setting.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the balance of moments around a pivot, with references to forces and distances. There is an equation mentioned that relates forces and distances from the pivot, indicating an attempt to set up a balance condition.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, emphasizing the importance of showing work rather than providing direct answers. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored, particularly regarding the forces involved.

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There is a suggestion to avoid using certain symbols for multiplication in the context of the discussion, indicating a focus on clarity in mathematical expressions. The original poster expresses frustration over the problem, suggesting a lack of clarity or understanding in the initial setup.

Richardos
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Help! I've spent 2 days now trying to do this now and it driving me mad.

http://www.emvino.com/pivot.jpg

Given the following diagram, what distance from the pivot (x) is required to balance the beam?


any help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks
 
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Hello Sai_2008,

Please help Richardos with his question, but do not answer it for him, as this doesn't help anybody with the problem. Show exactly how you obtained this answer, so that everyone else with the same problem can see how you did it, should they have the same question.

Thanks very much,

Domnu :smile:

My Solution
We need

[tex]\sum F_{left} x_{left} = \sum F_{right} x_{right}[/tex]

where [tex]F_{i}[/tex] denotes each force at a particular point (on the left or right) and [tex]x_{i}[/tex] denotes the distance away from the pivot at a particular point. What do we get from here?
 
Oh, btw sai_2008, I'm not sure, but I think I know who you are? I just PMed you.. check please =]
 
Sorry...

The force moments about the pivot must be equal on both sides (Exactly as domnu said in the equation below) for the balance to occur.

i.e., 10k x 5 = 20k X 2.5

sai

Domnu said:
Hello Sai_2008,

Please help Richardos with his question, but do not answer it for him, as this doesn't help anybody with the problem. Show exactly how you obtained this answer, so that everyone else with the same problem can see how you did it, should they have the same question.

Thanks very much,

Domnu :smile:

My Solution
We need

[tex]\sum F_{left} x_{left} = \sum F_{right} x_{right}[/tex]

where [tex]F_{i}[/tex] denotes each force at a particular point (on the left or right) and [tex]x_{i}[/tex] denotes the distance away from the pivot at a particular point. What do we get from here?
 
Just a word of advice, don't use x or X (especially not both in one line) to denote multiplication. I would use "*" for that if you don't want to parse it in TeX
 

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