Help for Tom's Daughter with Integration of 0 to Infinity

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The discussion centers around the integration of a specific function from 0 to infinity, which is related to an economics problem concerning oil reserves. Participants explore various methods of approximating or calculating the integral, sharing results and insights.

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Main Points Raised

  • Tom requests assistance with the integral of the function involving exponential terms and a variable k.
  • One participant suggests that an analytical solution may not be feasible and proposes a vague approximation that simplifies the integrand.
  • Another participant provides a numerical approximation using Maple, yielding a value of approximately 27.07839303.
  • There is a discussion about the correct formulation of the integral, with one participant questioning whether it should involve a square root term instead.
  • Further numerical approximations are shared, with one participant indicating a value of approximately 28.48936147, while expressing uncertainty about the accuracy of this result.
  • Another participant acknowledges the potential discrepancy in earlier approximations and suggests that ignoring certain terms could lead to significant errors.

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Participants express differing views on the correct formulation of the integral and the accuracy of the approximations. There is no consensus on the final value of the integral, as some participants report different results and express uncertainty about their calculations.

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Participants note that approximations may lead to inaccuracies, particularly when ignoring certain terms in the integrand. The discussion reflects varying levels of confidence in the numerical results obtained.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in mathematical integration techniques, particularly in the context of applied problems in economics or physics.

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Hi,

Can anyone please help me re integration from 0 to infinity of the following;

(e^0.03t)((50e^0.07t-10)/k)^-0.5 dt

Yours sincerely,

Tom.
 
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Doing that problem analytically is probably not possible, but if we very vaguely approximate the integrand, we can see what it is for most practical purposes.

Your integral is simplifies to [tex]\sqrt{\frac{k}{50}} \int^{\infty}_0 \frac{e^{0.03t}}{e^{0.07t} - 0.2} dt[/tex].

The next step takes away a lot of accuracy, but its the best i can really think of that doesn't take forever to do. We pretend we don't see the -0.2 in the denominator lol.

If we do that and evaluate the integral, we should get [tex]5\sqrt{ \frac{k}{2} }[/tex].
 
What class is your daughter in that she would have a problem like that?
 
Gib Z,
Thank you. I have sent this to my daughter.

HallsofIvy,
My daughter is doing economics in university and this has something to do with the reserves of oil in the world.
 
Using maple the integral

[tex]\int^{\infty}_0 \frac{exp(0.03t)}{exp(0.07t) - 0.2}dt[/tex]

is approximately 27.07839303
 
nicksauce said:
Using maple the integral

[tex]\int^{\infty}_0 \frac{exp(0.03t)}{exp(0.07t) - 0.2}dt[/tex]

is approximately 27.07839303

O that's pretty good then =] When we ignored that -0.2, it was 25.
 
Am I missing something, or shoudn't the integral portion be

[tex]\int^{\infty}_0 \frac{e^{0.03t}}{\sqrt{e^{0.07t} - 10}}dt[/tex]
 
Yes Theo, having spoken to my daughter I think you are correct. What would the answer be then? All replies are very welcome.
 
According to maple, the integral

[tex]\int_0^{\infty}\frac{exp(0.03t)}{\sqrt{50exp(0.07t)-10}}[/tex]

is approximately 28.48936147
 
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TheoMcCloskey said:
Am I missing something, or shoudn't the integral portion be...

Sorry my bad >.<" Maybe that's why I was so surprised that my 'approximation' was quite close, because I only ignored 0.2 instead of a 10. If we try to ignoring thing again I'm sure it would be quite a bit off.
 
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According to maple, the integral ... is approximately 28.48936147

I'm still looking at this, but I'm not done. However, I don't think the value is that high. Initially, I'm getting something roughly half this value.

more to come.
 
  • #12
After further review, I indeed get results that agree with nicksauce, ie, The integral is approx equal to 28.489361...
 

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