Help Identifying Source of Sliding Adhesion Coefficient Equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the sliding adhesion coefficient equation used in the HSRI tire model, specifically seeking to identify its origins and typical coefficient values. The context includes theoretical exploration related to tire dynamics and simulation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • A graduate student is investigating the sliding adhesion coefficient equation from Schramm et. al. but lacks guidance on typical coefficient values.
  • The student finds a similar equation from Dugoff, Fencher, & Segel (1969) but is uncertain about the origins of the equation from Schramm et. al.
  • Participants suggest additional resources, including works by Kummer and Mayer, and Hays and Brooke, which may provide further insights.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the resource recommendations but indicates a shift in focus in their research.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the origins of the sliding adhesion coefficient equation or the typical values for the coefficients. Multiple viewpoints and resources are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights a lack of clarity regarding the source of the equation and the absence of typical coefficient values, which may depend on specific applications or interpretations of the HSRI model.

AbsoluteUnit
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Hello all,

I am a graduate student working on a thesis in tire dynamics and simulation.
I have came across the following equation for sliding adhesion coefficient for the HSRI tire model (source: Schramm et. al. Vehicle Dynamics, Modeling and Simulation, pg. 182):

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Unfortunately, Schramm et. al. did not provide any guidance on what the typical values for coefficients kR and a should be, so I started attempting to track down the source of this formulation in hopes that there would be some usable values.

The closest I have come to is the following form from Dugoff, Fencher, & Segel (1969) (who are members of the HSRI, Michigan, pretty cool) that is kind of similar, but not exactly:
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Note: uw is the tire longitudinal velocity.

I can definitely contend and simply use this form, however I can't help but feel curious about the origins of the 1st form above since I have combed a lot of literature on the HSRI model, but Schramm et. al. is the first instance I have seen this, and it has been bothering me ever since like an itch that I cannot scratch.

I hope someone here can finally break this curse for me, thank you kindly.

AbsUnit
 
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The Unified Theory of Tire and Rubber Friction by H W Kummer and W E Mayer
The Physics of the Tire Traction by D F Hays and A L Brooke (more comprehensible)
 
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Hello Mike, I got side tracked by a lot and was advised to focus on other aspects of my research, but I would still like to say thank you for the recommended resources, cheers.
 
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