Help in derivation on a trig function in dipole radiation.

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of a trigonometric expression related to electric dipole radiation, specifically how to express the cosine term in the potential function for a dipole. Participants are exploring mathematical techniques and approximations relevant to this context.

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  • Alan presents the potential function for an electric dipole and requests assistance in deriving a specific cosine term related to the dipole's geometry.
  • One participant attempts a derivation using the Law of Cosines and provides a series of transformations, expressing uncertainty about the validity of their approach.
  • Another participant offers a simplified derivation using the Law of Cosines and the Binomial theorem, suggesting that their approach may differ in the definition of the distance between charges.
  • Alan asks for clarification on the Binomial theorem in the context of the previous response, indicating a desire for deeper understanding.

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There is no consensus on the derivation method, as participants present different approaches and express varying degrees of confidence in their results. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most accurate or preferred method for deriving the cosine term.

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Participants rely on approximations and assumptions, such as the condition \(d << r\) and the application of the Binomial theorem, which may not be universally accepted or proven within the discussion.

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This is part of derivation of electric dipole potential where:

[tex]V(\vec r,t)=\frac 1 {4\pi \epsilon_0} \left [ \frac {q_0 cos [\omega(t- \frac {\eta_+} c )]}{\eta_+}- \frac {q_0 cos [\omega(t- \frac {\eta_- } c)]}{\eta_-} \right ][/tex]

[tex]\vec {\eta_+} = \vec r - \vec r^+ (t_r) \;,\; \eta =\sqrt{r^2+(r^+) ^2}[/tex]

Where r points to the field point where V is measured and [itex]\vec r^+ (t_r)\;[/itex] is position of the positive point charge. [itex]\vec {\eta}_+ (t_r)\;[/itex] is the vector from positive charge to field point. There is of cause a [itex]\vec {\eta}_- (t_r)\;[/itex] for the negative charge also.

For d<< r, The book claimed without proof that:

[tex]cos [\omega(t-\frac {\eta_+} c)] = cos \left [\omega(t-\frac r c )+\frac{\omega d}{2c} cos \theta \right ][/tex]

Please help me on how to derive this. I know this is more a trig problem, but it has to be in the context of dipole radiation, this why I post it here instead.

Thanks

Alan
 
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I tried and this is the only one I come up with and it is quite lame:

Assuming the vector from the center of the dipole to the field point is [itex]\vec{\eta}[/itex] and vector from the +ve charge to field point is [itex]\vec{\eta}_+[/itex]. Using Law of Cosine:

[tex](\eta_+)^2=\eta^2 + (\frac d 2)^2 - 2\frac d 2 \eta cos \theta \;\Rightarrow\; cos\theta = \frac { \eta^2 +(\frac d 2)^2-(\eta_+)^2}{ d\eta} \cong \frac {\eta^2 -(\eta_+)^2}{ d\eta}[/tex]

[tex]cos \left [\omega(t-\frac {\eta} c)+\frac{\omega d}{2c}cos\theta \right]= cos\left [\omega(t-\frac {\eta} c)+\frac{\omega d}{2c}\frac {\eta^2 -(\eta_+)^2}{ d\eta}\right ]= cos \left [ \omega \left ( t-\frac {\eta} c + \frac d {2c} \frac {\eta^2 -(\eta_+)^2}{ d\eta}\right ) \right ] = cos \left [ \omega \left ( t- \frac {2\eta^2 - \eta^2 + (\eta_+)^2}{2c\eta}\right ) \right ][/tex]

For d<<[itex]\eta \;\Rightarrow \; \eta_+\cong \eta[/itex].

[tex]cos \left [\omega(t-\frac {\eta} c)+\frac{\omega d}{2c}cos\theta \right] = cos \left [ \omega \left ( t- \frac { \eta^2 + (\eta_+)^2}{2c\eta}\right ) \right ] \cong cos \left [ \omega \left ( t- \frac { \eta + \eta_+}{2c}\right ) \right ] \cong cos \left [ \omega \left ( t- \frac { \eta_+}{c}\right ) \right ][/tex]

But this is very lame and stretching it!
 
Piece of cake.

η+ = √(r2 + d2 -2dr cos θ) [Law of cosines]

≈ r - d cos θ [Binomial theorem]

so cos [ω(t - η+/c)] ≈ cos[ωt - ωr/c + ωd/c cos θ]

(missing factor of 2 is apparently because I defined d as the distance of each charge from the origin, whereas you defined it as the distance between them.)
 
Bill_K said:
Piece of cake.

η+ = √(r2 + d2 -2dr cos θ) [Law of cosines]

≈ r - d cos θ [Binomial theorem]

so cos [ω(t - η+/c)] ≈ cos[ωt - ωr/c + ωd/c cos θ]

(missing factor of 2 is apparently because I defined d as the distance of each charge from the origin, whereas you defined it as the distance between them.)

Thanks for your reply, can you explain a little more on Binomial theorem?

Alan
 

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